New Ambit Firmware available
29-08-2005, 12:27
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by MetaWraith
What happens if you do not reset your modem?
There being no emails from NTL regarding this, also going by our membership figures, the vast majority of NTL customers most probably have not seen this thread. So what happens to them?
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Their modem reboots itself. It gets the new firmware. They don't see any difference.
From what I can gather from other threads in various places this update plugs a fairly large security hole in the modem software which should hopefully make things a bit more difficult for the people who use the service without paying.
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29-08-2005, 16:26
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by deadite66
great work NTL you've stopped snmp access, i'll just have to go over the cap now.
tards.
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Amen
SNMP was a much more accurate way of monitoring rather than a program such as DUMeter on all pcs....
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Originally Posted by dezzo
Their modem reboots itself. It gets the new firmware. They don't see any difference.
From what I can gather from other threads in various places this update plugs a fairly large security hole in the modem software which should hopefully make things a bit more difficult for the people who use the service without paying.
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Also considering the complexity (I.E. Hardware mods) of what their doing anyway - I think they are gonna have the willpower to bypass the update in which workarounds are already floating around....
Its like Tom & Jerry, the freeloading morons who spoil it for the others are always gonna try and find away not to pay whereas the provider will always try to stop em.
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29-08-2005, 20:41
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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SNMP was a much more accurate way of monitoring rather than a program such as DUMeter on all pcs....
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Or, say, monitoring the WAN port on your router (which if you have >1 PC you must have one of, surely?).
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I think they are gonna have the willpower to bypass the update in which workarounds are already floating around
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Cat and mouse as you say. How about (and this isn't necessarily going to happen - if I had any say about it I wouldn't mention it on here) denying access to all modems not proven to be on the new firmware version?
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29-08-2005, 20:58
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
Strange that you say that BBKing but I have been running PRTG for over a year with my modem. Since the new firmware this program cannot monitor the modem.
Seems very strange that just as NTL start to send out letters to people over using their connections that NTL stop us monitoring our useage.
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29-08-2005, 21:55
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by Florence
Strange that you say that BBKing but I have been running PRTG for over a year with my modem. Since the new firmware this program cannot monitor the modem.
Seems very strange that just as NTL start to send out letters to people over using their connections that NTL stop us monitoring our useage.
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Been using this for the last month now and it works fine . www.ipcop.org/
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29-08-2005, 21:56
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
I wonder if all the ppl who have been pinged for exceeding the cap have the new firmware? I doubt that NTL would use the local modem to monitor usage but this firmware is coincidental to usage letters.
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29-08-2005, 22:09
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
Well my modem has not been updated, and i've no intention of turning it off to reset it. (everythings working just dandy,and I dont want to upset it) FWIW, my average monthly bandwidth usage comes to about one third of the cap.
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30-08-2005, 00:15
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by Bill C
Been using this for the last month now and it works fine . www.ipcop.org/
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isn't ipcop a firewall for linux??
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30-08-2005, 00:23
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by BBKing
Or, say, monitoring the WAN port on your router (which if you have >1 PC you must have one of, surely?).
Cat and mouse as you say. How about (and this isn't necessarily going to happen - if I had any say about it I wouldn't mention it on here) denying access to all modems not proven to be on the new firmware version?
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Actually your wrong mate - I dont use a router... One Windows system acts as the wireless gateway for the Xbox, 2 Laptops and other 2 systems.
But stopping us monitoring our usage via SNMP is ridiculous
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30-08-2005, 06:42
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by Chris W
isn't ipcop a firewall for linux?? 
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Its a stand alone router as well, look at the site and the screen shots.
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30-08-2005, 07:48
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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One Windows system acts as the wireless gateway for the Xbox, 2 Laptops and other 2 systems.
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Well, that contradicts your original statement that you'd have to use dumeter on every machine. Just use it on the gateway and there's your usage.
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Well my modem has not been updated, and i've no intention of turning it off to reset it.
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We'll do it then
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I doubt that NTL would use the local modem to monitor usage but this firmware is coincidental to usage letters.
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It is coincidental, AFAIK (don't assume that ntl always knows 100% what it's doing!). And we don't use the modem to monitor usage, that would be rather hard.
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30-08-2005, 08:08
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by BBKing
We'll do it then 
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The cable modem god has spoken.
For the record I understand this firmware update was for security reasons, and if SNMP has been restricted then it must have a use that ntl do not approve of.
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30-08-2005, 09:06
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by BBKing
Well, that contradicts your original statement that you'd have to use dumeter on every machine. Just use it on the gateway and there's your usage.
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It would still count all the data being sent locally between the PCs and Xboxs
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30-08-2005, 09:37
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by handyman
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Ok it was for security reasons I have been asking for years now for some online way to monitor what you are downloading and I purchased PRTG as it worked with my modem.
Lets hope NTL allow customers access to monitor their internet usage now supplied by them and as upto date as PRTG was for me.
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30-08-2005, 10:04
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Re: New Ambit Firmware available
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Originally Posted by Hans Gruber
It would still count all the data being sent locally between the PCs and Xboxs
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Many programs can distinguish between local and internet traffic, netlimiter being one.
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