Telewest announce 10Mb broadband speed

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Chris W

Urm... actually it is nothing to do with that. It is due to the nature of how a cable network operates. think of any cable company in the world and compare their download to upload speeds- upload is always significantly lower.

too late at night to give a proper technical explanation for it, so if you want one.... www.google.co.uk

Significantly but not as much as 10Mbit / 384k - this is the price of being unlimited to be honest, people cane upload more than down and they are struggling a bit under the uploading load as it is.

[andymt]

to be honest with you, it is logical to have faster d/load speeds, as unless u want to run a webserver, or r some really illegal torrent/p2p user, generally u d/load more than u upload??

except oline gaming i suppose.

[MikeV]

Originally Posted by Ignition

Significantly but not as much as 10Mbit / 384k - this is the price of being unlimited to be honest, people cane upload more than down and they are struggling a bit under the uploading load as it is.

Come on. Everyone knows Blueyonder would never announce it if they couldn't cope with it. It's common sense.

[SMHarman]

Originally Posted by andymt

to be honest with you, it is logical to have faster d/load speeds, as unless u want to run a webserver, or r some really illegal torrent/p2p user, generally u d/load more than u upload??

except oline gaming i suppose.

It is logical, but you really see how much slower it is when you upload many hi-res photos onto something like shutterfly.

It tooke me about 4 hours to upload the last 200 or so (at 2Mb each), for those concerned about being a considerate web user, I set it off and went to bed. Also because I could not do anything else as it was overloading the upstream.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by MikeV

Come on. Everyone knows Blueyonder would never announce it if they couldn't cope with it. It's common sense.

Agreed regarding upload which is why it's only 384k on a 10Mbit product.

Although unless they've crystal balls they can only guess on network load, a few places suffered and some are still suffering after the last set of upgrades.

It's not unknown for Telwest to temporarily upgrade network areas that weren't suitable for the upgrades in question, resulting in alleviating congestion but also in cutting some people off completely until they had had engineer calls as their network areas were unable to handle the upgrades.

Just something to think about.

[ian@huth]

One problem with higher speeds is that some of the heavy users may be satisfied with a couple of hundred gig per month and not care about the affect on other users in getting it at peak times. Get in from work at 6:00pm and start off a download queue which even if it goes through slow can easily catch up later when other users go offline because their connection is unusable.

[Chrysalis]

I was doing some transfers yesterday data backup between server's and it was going at approx 7mbit, the ack traffic was 45kB/sec. The traffic was SCP so the encryption may have added overhead but it looks like 384kbit may be pushing it.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I was doing some transfers yesterday data backup between server's and it was going at approx 7mbit, the ack traffic was 45kB/sec. The traffic was SCP so the encryption may have added overhead but it looks like 384kbit may be pushing it.

384 is fine for 10Mbit from the ACK POV. Really pants from the point of view of the huge asymettry but fine for ACKs, no real pushing it involved.

[andymt]

if you did want to start a webserver, or needed very high upload speed,

what would do?
just interested.

also how to companies who manage servers get a connection to the net?

[ian@huth]

Dedicated symmetrical lines

[andymt]

u mean normal asdl except with a contention ration of 1:1 instead of 50:1 meaning the 1 user can get high speeds?

But, the dload speed would still be faster than upload.
server companies i think use sdsl were the up is the same as down??

[eshaq786]

server companies dont use sdsl. They often house their servers at data centres which are connected by ethernet or fibre to internet exchanges such as the one in london (London Internet Exchange or something like that). Thats how the server companies get fast speeds. You could even get a server there for a price.

[andymt]

apparently if you ring tw you can get an eta of the upgrades in your region.

havent rung yet but will.
If anyone finds out when they will get upgraded, post it here!
I assume they will do all different upgrades upgrades in the same region at once?

[cara08]

i spoke to someone at Telewest customer services today and was told my BroadBand will be upgraded from 1meg to 4meg by the middle of next month staying at £25pm

[Chris W]

you pay £25 for 1meg :O ouch!