Dr in the buff - Page 2

12-08-2005, 10:36

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Originally Posted by Flubflow

I don't think it would bother me if they were a naturist.
I would be more concerned if she said, "by the way I'm a dominatrix at weekends", when she was just about to give me a prostate or testicular examination.

You would be ok as long as you said " Thank you maam" after

Stuart · 12-08-2005, 10:36

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Originally Posted by Salu

There must be a level where his actions/habits/thoughts would affect you though. What if he were a sex offender then? OK, I know he wouldn't be practicing then but wouldnt that affect you?

Probably not, but I cannot be sure as (AFAIK) my GP isn't a sexual offender. Also, the fact that my GP is openly gay doesn't affect me in the slightest (just in case you were planning on asking).

Salu · 12-08-2005, 10:38

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Originally Posted by danielf

Yes. All I care about is that my GP is professional. That's why I see him/her. I am not even remotely interested in what he/she does in his/her private life.

Frankly, I wonder why you started this thread. Why would/should I feel more uncomfortable?

I started it because I am interesting in the psychology of Dr to patient relationships. There will be a lot of politically correct answers given here as people feel the need to say the "correct" thing but I know from discussions that I have had that patients are put off by much more trivial things such as "the way he looked at me" or "he didn't look at me" or his dress sense etc.

Of course there will be people who genuinely do not care though....

Maybe an admin could add an annonymous poll?
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Originally Posted by Stuart C

Probably not, but I cannot be sure as (AFAIK) my GP isn't a sexual offender. Also, the fact that my GP is openly gay doesn't affect me in the slightest (just in case you were planning on asking).

put that red rag away now....

danielf · 12-08-2005, 10:40

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Originally Posted by Salu

I started it because I am interesting in the psychology of Dr to patient relationships. There will be a lot of politically correct answers given here as people feel the need to say the "correct" thing but I know from discussions that I have had that patients are put off by much more trivial things such as "the way he looked at me" or "he didn't look at me" or his dress sense etc.

Of course there will be people who genuinely do not care though....

Maybe an admin could add an annonymous poll?

Well, I would be put off if my GP came across as uninterested. 'Bed-side manner' is not trivial at all. What he/she does on the weekend or dress sense however is trivial.

12-08-2005, 10:43

I would not bother either,my surgery I never get to see the same doctor ive seen 4 there and I know nothing about any of them. I think pretty much thats the case all over.I dont think many people get to "know" there doctor.If he/she makes me well again thats all that counts

Salu · 12-08-2005, 10:43

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Originally Posted by danielf

Well, I would be put off if my GP came across as uninterested. 'Bed-side manner' is not trivial at all. What he/she does on the weekend or dress sense however is trivial.

It's not trivial if it affects you. Maybe you aren't affected at all, fair enough. Some people would not be bothered if their GP came across as uninterested as they may relate purely on a functional level. That is, "here is my problem, what is your advice?" Whether the GP is interested may not be important to them at all.

Jules · 12-08-2005, 11:35

As long as my doctor had his clothes on while he was examining me I really wouldn't mind that he was a naturist in his spare time.

Would I go some were and strip off naked with a lot of other people....nope, never, not a cat in hells chance!

Flubflow · 12-08-2005, 12:39

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Originally Posted by Salu

I started it because I am interesting in the psychology of Dr to patient relationships. There will be a lot of politically correct answers given here as people feel the need to say the "correct" thing but I know from discussions that I have had that patients are put off by much more trivial things such as "the way he looked at me" or "he didn't look at me" or his dress sense etc.

Of course there will be people who genuinely do not care though....

Here's something wierd for you Salu.
Our fantastic family GP retired about 15 years ago. Since then I've only been to the doctors about 3 times. I've never actually seen our replacement GP yet. Those times I went it was at very short notice and I always seemed to get this one other doctor who was the only one who seemed to be available for urgent appointments. About 10 years ago she seemed quite normal, if a little more casual in appreance than you'd expect. No problem. However, the last couple of times I saw her I noticed that she had put on quite a bit of weight, was wearing a man's suit, had very short hair like a lad and, this was the clincher... she had grown an alarming amount of moustache. Oh, it was really quite nasty. I'm not quite sure what the story is there but I have a few theories. That's the problem, one doesn't know what the story is and you can certainly understand the average person feeling ill at ease (which is not ideal when you are also feeling generally ill anyway!) and one doesn't really dare to ask. The doctor's performance as a doctor was not questionable at all.
Given the choice of waiting and suffering slightly to see my own GP or being able to get a more immediate appointment see her again then I'd have to admit in all honesty that I'd prefer to wait and suffer physically rather than suffer the worry about what further transformation may await me behind her surgery door. I don't know what the patient psychology of all that is about but I suppose you could say that it was a fear of the unknown more than a fear/hatred of something that is against the norm (especially if you don't particularly like going to the doctors anyway).

Of course sod's law will dictate that when I eventually get to see the proper family GP for the first time would be to discover that he wears a dress, make-up and a big blue-rinse hairdo

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ian@huth · 12-08-2005, 12:54

At my GP's you have to have any doctor if you want an appointment at short notice. Being a regular visitor due to my health problems I usually see the same one who knows all about my condition, its history and how it has been treated. On odd occasions I have had to see other doctors but do not have the same confidence in them. It wouldn't bother me in the slightest if I found out he was a naturist, why should it? Even if I found out that he was a gay naturist who got involved in mass sex orgies at the weekend it wouldn't bother me as long as he left all that behind and conducted his surgery in a proper professional manner.

Raistlin · 12-08-2005, 12:57

Ok.

Since you asked.

A disposition on the part of my GP to dance around naked in his spare time would change the way that I perceive him. However, that change in perception on my part would only be brought about by my having a better understanding of the person treating me.

I would not feel uncomfortable, nor would I think any less of him professionally.

All I want from a GP is for them to treat me, to the best of their ability, to act in a professional and curteous manner, and to listen to my problems/concerns sympatheticaly (sp?).

If they told me this during the course of a consultation I would consider it unusual, and if they persisited in discussing it I might feel uncomfortable that they were talking about it whilst they were supposed to be discharging their obligation to me.

Graham · 12-08-2005, 14:16

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Originally Posted by Salu

Would you be affected by the knowledge that your Doctor who was examining your bits on Monday was publically unclothed at the weekend?
Would you think of him/her any less professionally? Do you have to be a little odd to be unclothed publically? Would you feel uncomfortable? Is it all perfectly natural or are we being naive in suggesting this as men are known to be "excited" by visual imagery.

Why on earth should it affect me? Next think you know you'll be suggesting they take their clothes off when they have a bath or make love...!

Naturism has nothing to do with sex. Hell, I like "visual imagery" as much as the next bloke, but when I went to a naturist swimming pool with my sister and brother in law I wasn't wandering around with a permanent erection because it's a non-sexual context.

Frankly I'd be pleased to know that my doctor wasn't uptight about bodily exposure, indeed, in the USA there's an organisation called "Kink Aware Professionals" which has people from all professions (including doctors, lawyers etc) who someone who is into BDSM and related areas can go to without having to worry about needing to explain what it is that they do or why they do it when they need help or advice.

People should learn to relax a little more...!
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Originally Posted by punky

That said, she does sound like a bit of a nutcase. I can't see how "no clothes" makes everyone "more equal". What about out of uniform then?

Why does that make her a "nutcase"?

If she's wearing Versace and you're wearing Burberry, I think there would *definitely* be an "inequality" there...!

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Originally Posted by Salu

I'm aware that it is very PC these days to say "Do as you want as long as it doesn't effect me" type of thing but I want to know what you really feel. Don't just say the PC answer.

I beg your pardon, but that is *not* "Political Correctness". PC would be saying for instancethat you shouldn't wear designer brands because *I* can't afford them.

"An' it harm no other, do what thou wilt" is a very sensible idea, amongst other things it means that people shouldn't judge others based on their own beliefs (the attitude of "stop this person from doing something that *I* don't like them doing")
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Originally Posted by Salu

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

It's his knowledge and talents that count, not whether he wears clothes or not.

There must be a level where his actions/habits/thoughts would affect you though. What if he were a sex offender then? OK, I know he wouldn't be practicing then but wouldnt that affect you?

Now I think you're reaching...!
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Originally Posted by Flubflow

I would be more concerned if she said, "by the way I'm a dominatrix at weekends", when she was just about to give me a prostate or testicular examination.

Hey, just consider the fact that you'd usually have to pay ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£150 an hour for that sort of treatment!

Err, allegedly...

marky · 12-08-2005, 14:17

Just thinking of the practice BBQ

dilli-theclaw · 12-08-2005, 14:32

It's not something that I've stopped to think about, I'd like to think it wouldn't affect me.

But I guess I wouldn't know for sure until I found out.

edit - as it happens I DO have a problem with one of the gp's at my surgery and I refuse to see him, but that's another story.

Raistlin · 12-08-2005, 14:33

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Originally Posted by markymoan

Just thinking of the practice BBQ

Just don't have the sausage

Halcyon · 12-08-2005, 15:58

As long as the Doctor does his job well when he is working, then what he gets upto (as long as its legal and offends no one) is up to him or her outside of work.
I would not be bothered.