Russ is sexist. - Page 3

ikthius · 05-08-2005, 12:14

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Originally Posted by Russ D

After an odd experience at my gf's house tonight (and by 'odd' I mean 'sexist')it became apparent that I am sexist. Not to the point where I think women shouldn't hold responsible jobs etc but in general terms, such as assuming most women are crap at parking and other such examples.

She spoke a LOT of sense in to me and it seems I've not even been aware of it - until now.

Apologies to anyone who has been offended by a sexist comment which I've put forward as a joke, and I can assure you I have not intentionally been sexist.

why apologise it is just you being a normal bloke.

ik

marky · 05-08-2005, 14:48

Russ i have read your post and decided to be a new man and not sexist
therefore from this day forward my wife will no longer do the washing up
my daughter can do it instead

Halcyon · 05-08-2005, 14:51

"Hi, my names Russ and Im a sexist-aholic"

Im sure its not as bad as you think. Its good you realise you are aware of it.

Xaccers · 05-08-2005, 14:53

What's the big deal about women parking?
It's a known biological fact that they don't have the right equipment in their head for it (ie the bit of brain that developed in men that judges distance and objects and helps with navigation) just as men don't have the right equipement in their head for language, sympathy, empathy (women have a specific part of their brain for language, men have to just make do).
Celebrate the differences, don't knock each other for them.
Guys, don't mock your gf if she isn't able to navigate or park.
Girls don't hit your bf if when you come to him with a problem he tries to solve it rather than just giving you a sympathetic ear, or even doesn't notice something is wrong because you've not turned on the big neon sign which says "Something is wrong, turn to page 25 of my manual to find out what i need you to do stupid!"

05-08-2005, 15:09

I could make several comments, mentioning gf and what was she doing out of the kitchen?

But I decided to be semi serious.
I occurs to me that this woman may have a problem herself. I mean she decided you were sexist because you went shhhh?
Even by the largest stretch of the imagination I fail to see how shhhh can be deemed as sexist or rather, making her feel inferior because it undermines her comment because she is female.
Beauty is a matter of taste, I dont like many of the women posted in the Lust thread, doesnt undermine my authority because others think different.

Men and women are different in just about every way, except we breathe air, eat and drink.
Our bodies function differently, we have different parts and our minds think differently. Even within this, you have other differences, in style, sense of humour, taste, whatever.

Why should Russ be convinced he is sexist because one person objected to the "shhhh" had he said "**** off you pig **** for brains blonde bitch" I could possibly see what she meant.
Does it mean evertime I say "shhh" to my god daughter I am undermining her feminine ways and making myhself a reet sexist bar steward? No it means Shhh or as Russ inferred it, shhhhh I think she is particularly attractive and I would like to sleep with her. I dont think you see her the way I do.

But in the interest of being non sexist, my GF can now open every tin, bottle and jar herself, I wont hold open any door for any woman, I will no longer buy them a drink in the bar and I wont put the toilet seat down. All because it may be sexist and undermine them.
In return I shall do my own washing and ironing, spend my wages on myself and not flowers for her and I'll invest in one of those "fleshlight" sex aids, because as you can plainly see men dont need women either.

clarie · 05-08-2005, 19:32

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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001

I could make several comments, mentioning gf and what was she doing out of the kitchen?

But I decided to be semi serious.
I occurs to me that this woman may have a problem herself. I mean she decided you were sexist because you went shhhh?
Even by the largest stretch of the imagination I fail to see how shhhh can be deemed as sexist or rather, making her feel inferior because it undermines her comment because she is female.
Beauty is a matter of taste, I dont like many of the women posted in the Lust thread, doesnt undermine my authority because others think different.

Interesting...

Well firstly let me introduce myself as Russ' gf and as the person who originally said I found the comment sexist. I don't agree that I have a problem myself. Russ explained to me after he said the comment (to my female friend) that the reason he had said 'shh' was because it was a 'bloke moment'. This implies that she was not allowed to have an opinion on whether or not this women was attractive because she is a woman herself.

Now let me start by saying I can assure you I am no Germaine Greer and also I am not accusing Russ of being a sexist pig or anything like that. Obviously I think he is a wonderful bloke which is why I am with him. However I think that sometimes, without realising it, and certainly not in a malicious way, he can say things that are a bit sexist. And I think a lot of blokes can be. Equally I think a lot of women are. My whole point was that I don't really like my mate being told to 'shhh' when she offers her opinion on something. Russ was worried afterwards that he had offended my friend and she in turn asked me to reassure him that he hadn't. I knew full well he wasn't being nasty towards her but it's just something I don't like, and I don't really like sexist jokes either.

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Originally Posted by timewarrier2001

But in the interest of being non sexist, my GF can now open every tin, bottle and jar herself, I wont hold open any door for any woman, I will no longer buy them a drink in the bar and I wont put the toilet seat down. All because it may be sexist and undermine them.
In return I shall do my own washing and ironing, spend my wages on myself and not flowers for her and I'll invest in one of those "fleshlight" sex aids, because as you can plainly see men dont need women either.

Calm down is all I can say to this comment. I think Xaccers has the right idea:

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Originally Posted by xaccers

Celebrate the differences, don't knock each other for them.

I am not for a moment suggesting you stop treating women as women. I simply don't like women being lumped together in one group of people who 'can't park' or 'are rubbish with directions' in the same way as I object to such phrases as 'men don't listen' or 'men love football.'

marky · 05-08-2005, 19:37

Hi and

mark now goes to check the sunflower in the garden it may need watering

Jules · 05-08-2005, 20:22

Welcome to the forum Clarie we have heard a lot about you...well no we haven't but we hear your name alot

Raistlin · 05-08-2005, 20:45

Hi Clarie,

to CF.

Glad to see you're keeping Russ on his toes

clarie · 05-08-2005, 20:49

Hey all,

I wouldn't want anyone to think I am the stereotypical nagging gf trying to change her bf. It's just that I think sometimes he is a bit sexist without realising - I have seen posts he has put on here before that I find a bit offensive (albeit in a jokey way) towards women. Anyway all credit to him once I told him he had a think and realised maybe I am right! Hence this thread,

Nice to meet you all!

Clare

Jules · 05-08-2005, 20:54

Aww Clare the thought never even crossed my mind that you were a nagging stereo type

05-08-2005, 21:03

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Originally Posted by clarie

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I am not for a moment suggesting you stop treating women as women. I simply don't like women being lumped together in one group of people who 'can't park' or 'are rubbish with directions' in the same way as I object to such phrases as 'men don't listen' or 'men love football.'

absolutely - any more than other types of labelling or stereotyping should dictate expectations of behaviour - I agreed with Xaccers, also

- just seen your latest post while I type this and it was exactly what I meant about the 'throwaway' remarks in my earlier reply to Russ
http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...9&postcount=11

- nice to 'meet' you, too

AndrewJ · 05-08-2005, 21:08

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Originally Posted by Russ D

After an odd experience at my gf's house tonight (and by 'odd' I mean 'sexist')it became apparent that I am sexist. Not to the point where I think women shouldn't hold responsible jobs etc but in general terms, such as assuming most women are crap at parking and other such examples.

She spoke a LOT of sense in to me and it seems I've not even been aware of it - until now.

Apologies to anyone who has been offended by a sexist comment which I've put forward as a joke, and I can assure you I have not intentionally been sexist.

It's okay for the females to note a suitable punishment would be a bikini line wax, while being recorded for CF forums

marky · 05-08-2005, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Saxodriver

It's okay for the females to note a suitable punishment would be a bikini line wax, while being recorded for CF forums

or a b c & s wax

AndrewJ · 05-08-2005, 21:15

hmm posts on 777 there markey

ooo

BC&S wax.. sounds painful.

Lets get it done by with the most sticky wax and slowly pulled off, what do you think ladies? suitable punishment ( hope i aint giving his lady friends ideas)

NOT!