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[Chris W]

no it is not allowed.

and i think i know which forum this has come from, and who the poster is....

it does detail in the t&cs at www.ntlhome.com/legals that this is not allowed but i'm on dial up atm so not going to bother trying to find it myself

The poster as iggy puts is a fanboy noob.

So could i tell someone about it

[simpsonsFAN]

No fair, you took that compleatly out of context from a thread entitled "How Much Shall I Sell Broadband To My Neighbor For?" on DS. I simply answered the origional posters question by describing my setup to him

Im a Fanboy n00b eh? I will pretend I dident read that
-Chris

But your not allowed to sell your net connection or send the signal to other houses.

As you state I give out my connection for £10 per person.

[Ignition]

Said person appears quite interested in this thread too... http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/member.php?u=5547

Not going to reply on here Mr ntlhellworld / SimpsonsFAN ?

Actually rephrase that. You're running hosting as well as all this other garbage on your connection - IMHO that's extracting the urine, various records based on this have been forwarded to the ntl AUP team, have a nice day.

Originally Posted by Ignition

Said person appears quite interested in this thread too... http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/member.php?u=5547

Not going to reply on here Mr ntlhellworld / SimpsonsFAN ?

Actually rephrase that. You're running hosting as well as all this other garbage on your connection - IMHO that's extracting the urine, various records based on this have been forwarded to the ntl AUP team, have a nice day.

You sir are a legend. I will now change my title

[jtwn]

HoHoHo -Chris

[punky]

Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

I'm a Fanboy n00b eh? I will pretend I dident read that
-Chris

Exploiting 80 year old people eh? You sound like a jolly nice chap. Why stop at £10? Why not charge them £15, and cap their bandwidth at 5kbps downstream/ 1kbps upstream? I would love you to get done for this, but sadly I suspect you won't. Still, good luck Ignition

A tenner to NTL would get someone their own 1 meg wired connection. I know what I would rather have.

Originally Posted by punky

Exploiting 80 year people eh? You sound like a jolly nice chap. Why stop at £10? Why not charge them £15, and cap their bandwidth at 5kbps downstream/ 1kbps upstream? I've love you to get done for this, but sadly I suspect you won't. Still, good luck Ignition

A tenner to NTL would get someone their own 1 meg wired connection. I know what I would rather have.

Ha you should read some of his other posts on digitalspy.

I would love for him to go down to. wanna see if the noob fanboy could cope on a BT line

[simpsonsFAN]

Originally Posted by Ignition

Not going to reply on here Mr ntlhellworld / SimpsonsFAN ?

I already have, read upwards. I think most people on the board are capible of clicking on my post and pressing "veiw public profile" dont you?

Originally Posted by Ignition

You're running hosting as well as all this other garbage on your connection

There is nothing in the ntl T&Cs that says running webservers on ntl connections is unlegit, Its one of the main reasons I chose ntl as my ISP

Originally Posted by Ignition

IMHO that's extracting the urine, various records based on this have been forwarded to the ntl AUP team

I have been a ntl customour for years now, I doubt they are going to threaten me now on your advice

Originally Posted by Ignition

have a nice day.

Thanks, Will do. Shame about the weather though, I was planning on going out swimming but I wont bother now. So, How was your day?

-Chris

[Chris W]

Ok I think it is time to turn to the user policy:

For starters- section 20:

In connecting to the Broadband Service, you must only use a PC you own or lease, and you must not attempt to connect your PC to the Broadband Services from outside your home . This includes the use of wireless or non-wireless networking technology to connect your PC or any other PC to your Broadband Services from outside your home (other than your own garden) or the connection of your PC to anyone else's Broadband Services.

Section 16:

The service (including webspace) is for residential use only. It must not be used for business purposes.

oh and depending on how many people you are ripping off, we have a bit more from section 20:

You must not connect more than three (3) PC's to the Broadband Services at any one time.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by simpsonsFAN

I already have, read upwards. I think most people on the board are capible of clicking on my post and pressing "veiw public profile" dont you?There is nothing in the ntl T&Cs that says running webservers on ntl connections is unlegit, Its one of the main reasons I chose ntl as my ISPI have been a ntl customour for years now, I doubt they are going to threaten me now on your adviceThanks. Shame about the weather though, I was planning on going out swimming but I wont bother now. So, How was your day?

-Chris

There is a really fairly big section about running businesses on your connection though:

Originally Posted by http://www.burnouthosting.co.uk/packs.html

Web hosting starts from as little as £2 a month, Dedicated servers for new customers start at £25 a month with free setup (excluding any offers or current quotes).

Along with sections about how you aren't supposed to have servers generating abnormal amounts of traffic, offering free Webmail and image hosting on your connection could certainly do this.

Also as you're completely aware you've no business sharing your connection with others, let alone reselling it, that's a big nono.

You don't get 3Mbit for less than £40 a month with various stuff in the T+Cs about how it's supposed to be suitable only for residential use, etc, so that you can resell the connectivity for web hosting and to other people in your street as your own paid for WISP.

Taking my ntl hat off for a little while I consider you no better than a common thief, you're ripping off the people in your street and you're ripping off ntl twice over, once with the dubious use of your connection to make money hosting, then again as these people could be paying ntl £9.99 and getting a proper 1Mbit service, not paying for your cable modem.

I've nothing more to say on this as previously said all the info I have has been forwarded to the relevant parties.

Can i just say pwned

[Stuart]

simpsonsFAN, I am disappointed. While I am not really worried about you sharing your connection (although, as pointed out, it is againsts t&cs), ripping off pensioners is wrong.