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Old 07-07-2005, 20:12   #1
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Hard drive setup

Right, currently I have a sata HD in my pc ( 80gb ) but no floppy drive on my pc nor driver floppy for the harddrive, now I wish to install my 80gb IDE as a slave, and format both HD's putting Windows XP Pro onto the main HD ( sata ) and my music etc on the IDE 80gb HD, is this possible?

Also will I likely hit issues not having a floppy drive or cd driver disk ( Mesh Computers supplied a XP Home Sp2 OEM ) as I have heard SATA harddrives to be problematic without drivers.

Thanks all and I hope I made enough sense there
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Old 07-07-2005, 20:40   #2
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Re: Hard drive setup

You may need to load some SATA drivers when installing Windows. These will have come with your motherboard CD.
You dont always have to use the extra drivers, it depends on the setup.
If needed, you will need to press F6 (If I recall correctly) when it reboots to install these drivers.

It is very much possible to have the Hard drives configured the way you say and there should be no problem with this configuration.

If you need drivers, check out your motherboard website and it should have them on there.
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Old 07-07-2005, 20:48   #3
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Re: Hard drive setup

Normally, you will only need to load specific SATA drivers before as part of the windows installation if you are trying to add a RAID setup. That is unlikley in your case since you aren't matching the HD sizes.

If you do need to load such drivers it could be an interesting challenge without a floppy drive. Windows might not be able to read them from a manufacturer's CD. I would expect any drivers needed to be on the OEM CD you were supplied with, or on a separate motherboard CD also supplied with your PC.

If your PC will not start up reading the OEM CD check your BIOS settings for startup drive options and see that the CD is listed.
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Old 07-07-2005, 21:22   #4
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Re: Hard drive setup

As Rob says, there should be enough SATA drivers in XP to load the OS.

Another alternative is to build a slipstreamed XP CD with the correct drivers (http://www.nliteos.com/index.html apparently makes this easy).

Why do you want to reformat the Sata drive? you could just add the IDE drive, copy the data over. Partition Magic would allow you to extend the partition to cover the whole drive if thats a problem.
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Re: Hard drive setup

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As Rob says, there should be enough SATA drivers in XP to load the OS.

Another alternative is to build a slipstreamed XP CD with the correct drivers (http://www.nliteos.com/index.html apparently makes this easy).

Why do you want to reformat the Sata drive? you could just add the IDE drive, copy the data over. Partition Magic would allow you to extend the partition to cover the whole drive if thats a problem.
What is slipstream........I've seen it mentioned before?
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What is slipstream........I've seen it mentioned before?
In a nutshell, you create a customised CD with XP & drivers all on the same disk.
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Re: Hard drive setup

Moving away from my main thought in this thread to a new one which hit me.

My programs and games come to nearly 70gb which is daft on a 80gb main drive, so I am thinking of buying 2 new 200gb drives, on a IDE interface and wiring them in master and slave, the sata and 80gb IDE I have I plan to make the IDE 80gb into a external with a caddy, is it possible to make a SATA a external as well? as I think with 2 Harddrives in my micro atx tower its going to be rather busy.


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Re: Hard drive setup

Externak SATA is possible, theres a caddy here
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/acatal...ive_Racks.html
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Re: Hard drive setup

Thanks Paul, shall look into that, I think with 400gb internal and 160gb external I finally should have enough space for all my Jessica Alba stuff.
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Re: Hard drive setup

You can get backplates for Sata which just routes 2 of the motherboards sata ports to external,I have 2 sata drives external with no need for a caddy and full Sata spec so no speed loss,Also as long as your mobo supports it and you use the new type power connector these are also hot swapable
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Re: Hard drive setup

Thanks ZB, but my idea would be to have 160gb of external HD to be portable around country with me, so I have my best programs with me ( paid for system mechanic etc ( with suitable license for multiple computers) and my personal music collection. )
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Re: Hard drive setup

why buy a sata when an ide is cheaper? seeing as our going to be turning into a usb 2 drive I can't see the point in using a sata drive
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Re: Hard drive setup

I currently have a IDE 80gb which is not plugged in, and a SATA 80gb harddrive which is the single HD in this machine.

However I plan on buying 2 IDE interface 200gb Harddrives and some narrow IDE leads and installing them as master/slave, then fitting the sata harddrive and the ide 80gb harddrive into a external caddy, then using them to move data back and forth from my friends without multiple dvd'r's etc.
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Re: Hard drive setup

The benefits of SATA, primarily speed, will be lost connecting externally unless the PCs each have a SATA card to which you can connect directly.

I'd leave the SATA you have connected internally to your current PC. If you want an external direve to carry around just use a standard IDE drive.
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Re: Hard drive setup

Drivers are a issue my pc has not got a floppy drive, and I have no drivers for the motherboard nor the SATA HD, now I have to dig up drivers for my motherboard, but if XP will not format onto this HD due to driver error I would like my other IDE HD's to be ready.

I do not game all that much hence I do not have a watercooled monster computer, most of my time I am chatting on forums or on Flight Sim 2004 messing about, and for those few extra seconds in performance if that is messing for hours with drivers worth it?
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