Unix - what the hell is it?
06-07-2005, 09:39
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
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Originally Posted by Simon M
Not really ... no.
Unix has it's place and in many ways is far more flexible than windows. It just takes some understanding and knowledge to use it efficiently.
Windows constantly "holds your hand" which can become cumbersome and restrictive.
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Whereas Unix dosent even try to hint... If it had an animated paperclip it would probably say - What you looking at! You want help - search the web fool!
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06-07-2005, 09:46
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
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Originally Posted by Simon M
Not really ... no.
Unix has it's place and in many ways is far more flexible than windows. It just takes some understanding and knowledge to use it efficiently.
Windows constantly "holds your hand" which can become cumbersome and restrictive.
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Whereas Unix dosent even try to hint... If it had an animated paperclip it would probably say - What you looking at! You want help - search the web fool! 
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You could always try "man"
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06-07-2005, 09:55
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
Here come the pedant police: Linux is a Unix clone, not strictly a Unix version
If you want to try Unix at home you can go for a BSD distribution, e.g.
FreeBSD
OpenBSD
NetBSD
Or Sun have just open sourced Solaris.
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06-07-2005, 10:00
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
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Originally Posted by TheBlueRaja
search the web fool! 
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Unix, the Mr T of the OS world.
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06-07-2005, 10:24
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
Mac OS X is also built on Unix
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06-07-2005, 10:41
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
I hate unix! WE had it had uni what a pile of pants!
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06-07-2005, 10:45
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Originally Posted by allieyoung666
I hate unix! WE had it had uni what a pile of pants!
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Well ... if you were trying to wear it ....
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06-07-2005, 10:49
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
Unix is glorified DOS and much harder to use.
Unix engineers think thye are gods when in reality they are cardiganised sandal wearing beard toting folkies........usually
You'll find many of them supporting the campaign for real ale and buying Vin Garbutt CD's.
Well thats how it is where I work anyway.
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06-07-2005, 10:51
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
Since 90% of my working day is spent in Unix, surprisingly enough I am quite happy with it.
Basically its an operating system with no safety net. there is no 'are you sure Y/N' pop ups once you hit enter its going to happen. Not for any one with a little knowledge.
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06-07-2005, 11:14
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
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Originally Posted by timewarrior2001
Unix is glorified DOS and much harder to use.
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I'll agree that the CLI is harder to learn than DOS (mainly because there are so many more commands compared to DOS' 11 or so) but on the other hand it is far more powerful. These days though, desktops environments like GNOME and KDE have made some giant leaps in usability (as well as looking nice, I'll post a screenshot when I get home).
BTW, Unix came first and MS was once a Unix licensee. link
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06-07-2005, 11:17
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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry
I'll agree that the CLI is harder to learn than DOS (mainly because there are so many more commands compared to DOS' 11 or so) but on the other hand it is far more powerful. These days though, desktops environments like GNOME and KDE have made some giant leaps in usability (as well as looking nice, I'll post a screenshot when I get home).
BTW, Unix came first and MS began life as a Unix reseller.
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I'm aware of the facts, I was just being tongue in cheek about it
As one that cannot figure linux out, I have avoided unix like the plague. But I still stand by my generalisations lol.
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06-07-2005, 11:18
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
The TCP/IP stack in Windows is based on BSD, that's why you have etc/hosts in Windows instead of registry settings.
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06-07-2005, 13:35
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Originally Posted by Richard M
Nah, even better would be the infamous "rm -Rf /".
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Only if you're root, otherwise you have to sudo it
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06-07-2005, 16:51
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
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Originally Posted by philip.j.fry
Here come the pedant police: Linux is a Unix clone, not strictly a Unix version
If you want to try Unix at home you can go for a BSD distribution, e.g.
FreeBSD
OpenBSD
NetBSD
Or Sun have just open sourced Solaris.
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Heh, I think that people who complain that Linux is too user-unfriendly for them will have an even tougher time with BSD
I think that Sun's decision to open source Solaris was an extremely brave one to take, and also a highly commendable one. I really hope it pays off for them having taken such a risk. Although I've yet to use Solaris on an x86 box, I've only used it on SPARC machines. Anyone here tried it on an Intel box?
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06-07-2005, 17:01
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Re: Unix - what the hell is it?
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Heh, I think that people who complain that Linux is too user-unfriendly for them will have an even tougher time with BSD
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Yep, I've got NetBSD running on my laptop (486 sx50  ) and it's been a pain to configure.
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Although I've yet to use Solaris on an x86 box, I've only used it on SPARC machines. Anyone here tried it on an Intel box?
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Not yet, but I will do once I get more HD space.
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