Mac OS 10.4 "Tiger" on april 29th!

Originally Posted by monkeybreath

the mini comes with iLife as standard

Wehey! Sorted.

[Lew]

My copy of 10.4 arrived about half an hour ago. Now I can't wait until 17:30 so I can go and upgrade my computers.

[punky]

Originally Posted by Lew

My copy of 10.4 arrived about half an hour ago. Now I can't wait until 17:30 so I can go and upgrade my computers.

Cool, let me know how it goes, and what you honestly think about it (although I can probably guess).

I still don't think I am going to upgrade yet, not at 90 quid. Is the price liable to come down much?

[Chris W]

well jimbo and i are off to Birmingham now to get our copies from the new apple store when it opens at 6pm

[Lew]

Ars Technica have a review of 10.4 here.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Lew

Ars Technica have a review of 10.4 here.

Woah! Thats one loooooooong (but still interesting) article.

[quadplay]

And MB and I are now back from Birmingham with Tiger and free t-shirts! Yay us!

[Chris W]

Originally Posted by jimbo

And MB and I are now back from Birmingham with Tiger and free t-shirts! Yay us!

yay indeed

now installed... and all i can say is.... rarrrr tiger!

[Derek]

It is very impressive. Very responsive and the dashboard is wow!

Dam TNT, Still waiting for it.

Is it faster?

[Semi On]

Originally Posted by Tristan

Windows XP was released in 2001. If you bought it then, you haven't had to pay a penny for the service packs and updates since, including new versions of Internet Explorer, Media Player, MSN Messenger, Windows Movie Maker, etc etc. Hell, if you bought XP Pro, they'll give you the 64-bit version for free.

With this in mind, how can Apple justify charging £99 foir a service pack every 12 months?

I'm not Microsoft's biggest fan, by a long way -- I'm typing this on a Linux box -- but even they don't seem as money-grabbing as Apple.

How the hell can you compare point upgrades of OS X to XP Service Packs? I've been an XP user since it's release, and I didn't see any major changes to the OS in any of the service packs. The only things I've seen are security fixes. Upgrades to IE6? What a joke. They'll be showing it on the Antiques Roadshow soon.

OS X has Service Packs too. If you're using 10.3 you can update to 10.3.1, 10.3.2 etc. In those you get bug-fixes, security patches, minor tweaks to the OS - basically the same sort of thing you get in an XP service pack.

Take a look at the list of changes in Tiger. I didn't see those sort of changes in any of the XP service packs. I bet the last time changes like that were made was when the move from 2K to XP was made. And how much did a full retail version of XP cost on release? I bet it wasn't £89.

Put it this way - MS and Apple are as money-grabbing as each other, they just do it differently. Apple upgrade yearly (though Tiger was 18 months), MS can take years. And both price them accordingly.

[Swipe]

Does Tiger upgrade well from Panther or is it better to do a clean install? Can anyone who has performed an upgrade offer their experiences please?

[Richard M]

I had the pleasure of using Safari to browse CF yesterday and all I can say is that I want one.

[Derek]

Originally Posted by Swipe

Does Tiger upgrade well from Panther or is it better to do a clean install? Can anyone who has performed an upgrade offer their experiences please?

It is faster after the initial searchlight scan has completed and looks fine after an install over the top of 10.3

When it first starts up it can be a bit hairy as it looks like the computer has frozen but since then it has been going strong.

Its coming! Next time you see me, I will be posting using Mac OS 10.4.