Wonder what the new Pope thinks of this!! - Page 10

Russ · 22-04-2005, 21:13

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No, you need a sperm and an ovum (at the moment, anyway, it may well be possible for two women to have a child using two X chromosomes, but it wouldn't work for men with two Y chromosomes)

Semantics - you need a man and a woman.

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But does your statement mean that anyone who isn't fertile shouldn't be allowed to have children or even adopt them? I don't think so.

Of course not - a child's upbringing should be kept as close to natural as possible.

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So your only objection appears to be that it's those who can't have children because they're a male/ male or female/ female couple shouldn't be allowed to adopt.

As above

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What about if one parent is black and the other is white? How do they explain that to their child?

As above.

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Why not leave that up to the couple who decides to have or adopt children instead of objecting because, seemingly, you would find it difficult?

If we left it up to the couple to make the decision we'd have a lot of unhappy children, that's why we have agencies to assess the suitablilty of potentional adopters first.

BBKing · 22-04-2005, 21:24

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poker

Poke who?

Game, set and match to Graham, I think. Ball duly picked up and taken home. Ball gags, however, left in control of the field.

Thought occurs - is it a measure of how civilised a society is that it allows *more* scope for its citizens 'to become a tribe of animals living on the most basic of instincts'? After all, without basic instincts there wouldn't be very many humans (nor as much fun).

NitroNutter · 22-04-2005, 21:35

As an additional thought all beit on the wild side of probability,
After the Spannish Madrid bomings by Al Qaeda, Spain voted in an opposition party at their next election which was rumoured to have certain Al Qaeda ties. I dont know how true that was but if so then the thread title here maybe more significant than anyone has thought.
What better way than to throw a spanner in the new popes works in his first week, and present him with perhaps even a possible catholic split from Spain itself.
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Originally Posted by BBKing

Poke who?

Game, set and match to Graham, I think. Ball duly picked up and taken home. Ball gags, however, left in control of the field.

Thought occurs - is it a measure of how civilised a society is that it allows *more* scope for its citizens 'to become a tribe of animals living on the most basic of instincts'? After all, without basic instincts there wouldn't be very many humans (nor as much fun).

Hello self appointed upmpire

ummm well my basic instinct if some bloke makes any sexual advances towards me as they so often fail to understand 2 simple letters or 2 simple words, is to teach them a damn hard lesson, in the past I have refrained from such action and suffered as a conseqence, but you wont mind me taking to my basic instinct if the need arises in the future ?

**Maggy** · 22-04-2005, 21:35

The only issue that would worry me for children adopted by gay couples would be the way in which it was percieved by society and the classmates of the child.It's just one more issue for a child to be bullied about.With such polarised attitudes as shown in this thread this could have quite a significant impression on a child.However it's not a reason not to try...provided care and thought are used by all parties..

BBKing · 22-04-2005, 21:36

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voted in an opposition party at their next election which was rumoured to have certain Al Qaeda ties.

Rumoured by whom, and are they safely in a padded cell? The PSOE (Spanish Socialist Party) is a left-wing bunch who came to power after the ruling right wingers (who'd backed Bush over Iraq against the opposition of about 97% of the Spanish people) initially blamed ETA for the Madrid train bombings - it's likely that if the blame hadn't been apportioned wrongly the right wingers would have got in (it was very close up till then).

It's unlikely that al-Qaeda, which stands for extreme religious conservatism and the elimination of democracy, would be associated with a secular democratic progressive left-wing party committed to rolling back the power of religion in Spain. As in as unlikely as Elvis being found on Mars.

Oh, and back to the thread - did NitroNutter intend it imply that he spend the evening in a club with lots of sweaty men with hard poles and Graham spend it with a gaggle of mildly intoxicated ladies in an excited condition? I'll take the bingo anyday, red blooded male that I am.*

*mind you, I'm crap at snooker

Russ · 22-04-2005, 21:40

Have you been drinking?

BBKing · 22-04-2005, 21:50

I believe it is customary to take refreshment at around this time on a Friday evening. Anyone is welcome to join me, there's beer in the fridge.

Russ · 22-04-2005, 21:52

I think I'll pass.....

22-04-2005, 21:57

I've been out the pub.......... has there been a hint of homophobia while I've been away?

**Maggy** · 22-04-2005, 21:59

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I've been out the pub.......... has there been a hint of homophobia while I've been away?

you get one of these cheeky...

Russ · 22-04-2005, 22:00

no!

NitroNutter · 22-04-2005, 22:06

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Rumoured by whom, and are they safely in a padded cell? </snip>

well there several politicians that could do with visiting there for a while, especially some spannsh ones

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Oh, and back to the thread - did NitroNutter intend it imply that he spend the evening in a club with lots of sweaty men with hard poles and Graham spend it with a gaggle of mildly intoxicated ladies in an excited condition? I'll take the bingo anyday, red blooded male that I am.*

*mind you, I'm crap at snooker

So am I, biggest break ever of 25 I think but then I came from a seriously violent broken home, and with no father figure around to teach me in my early teens Im bound to be crap at snooker, I opted for the easy alternative pool.
Additional thought, the last thing I would have wished at that time in my life was to get removed from my home and then placed in a home with parents in a gay relationship, I really think if that had happened Id have been sent completely over the edge.
Still fortunatly for you all I opted to stick around the violence when social services visited so you have the real benefit of my posting here

22-04-2005, 22:26

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no!

My mistake. Tsk, that Guinness

BBKing · 22-04-2005, 22:26

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I came from a seriously violent broken home, and with no father figure around to teach me in my early teens Im bound to be crap at snooker, I opted for the easy alternative pool.

Sounds like my other half. She can beat me hands down at pool, though. Incidentally, when she was finding her feet in London a few years ago she was helped by a wonderful lesbian couple.

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spannsh

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Quite agree about the politicians and padded cells - let's have a list of candidates for the white waistcoat with the optional long sleeves. I nominate:

Robert Kilroy-Silk
Vladimir Putin
Donald Rumsfeld
David Blunkett

Any more for any more?

NitroNutter · 22-04-2005, 22:29

How about turning westminster into one big assylum