[Merged] 8Mb ADSL

[obvious]

Originally Posted by Hans Gruber

http://www.adslguide.org.uk/newsarchive.asp?item=2194

Looks like Ukonline are now doing 512k for £9.99 and 2mbit for £19.99, and did I mention they're uncapped? :p

Whoever said the future was metered broadband?

Only downside is that it's currently only on LLU exchanges, but one hell of a step in the right direction.

You're not wrong !

My area got activated for 8 meg today,called bt and i gotta wait 2 weeks for an engineer in 3 weeks i'll be on 8meg,Im only 2.6k from exchange Following the the roads,they tell me ill nearly get the full 8 meg.Oh how my impatience is killing me lol lol lol

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

My area got activated for 8 meg today,called bt and i gotta wait 2 weeks for an engineer in 3 weeks i'll be on 8meg,Im only 2.6k from exchange Following the the roads,they tell me ill nearly get the full 8 meg.Oh how my impatience is killing me lol lol lol

Time will tell. What if all the power users in the area all decide to go for it as well? How often do you think you will get nearly the full 8 meg then?

the 8 meg speed does not really matter to me,what does matter is 500 gig cap i wont come anywhere near but I wont have to worry £10 cheaper than capped ntl so even if most the time I only get 3 meg im still loads better off

[ian@huth]

You might not get anything like the 8Mb if all the power users join you on the service and the 500Gb is meaningless if your connection crawls along at dialup speed. 50:1 contention can be pretty harsh if there are a lot of really heavy users hard at work.

33 to 1 contention on ukonline

Node4 are offering 8Mbit ADSL on a 20:1 contention for £149 per month in Nottingham - the upstream is crap though, only 256Kbit.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by zinglebarb

33 to 1 contention on ukonline

So it is. Still doesn't take that many users going full pelt to slow it down.

[garyparson]

Don't forget that you have to be reasonably close to the exchange and as one person mentioned in another thread that cuts a lot of people out so you'd have to be pretty unlucky to be bundled with a bunch of hardcore downloaders in your little area round the exchange.

I hope UK Online thrives from companies that treat their customers like fools.

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by garyparson

Don't forget that you have to be reasonably close to the exchange and as one person mentioned in another thread that cuts a lot of people out so you'd have to be pretty unlucky to be bundled with a bunch of hardcore downloaders in your little area round the exchange.

I hope UK Online thrives from companies that treat their customers like fools.

I doubt you'd have to have them in your little area. You'd just need enough within the total area (not just your little bit) to swamp the exchange's backhaul connection to the network.

If UK online takes off then that MAY be a problem in some areas.

Anyway, I will repeat my little bit of advice to anyone who has problems with NTL's cap. If you can, go to an ADSL supplier. UK online is looking pretty good, but even if they are not, there are plenty of ADSL suppliers out there. This is exactly what I am going to do if the cap causes me problems (or if NTL don't get their ar$es in gear and launch a PVR, but that's another story).

I've said it before, and I am going to say it again. If enough people leave NTL, they will get the hint that something is wrong. All the while that the number of customers joining is greater than the number leaving, they'll just put it down to customer churn (I think it's called).

[zoombini]

A list (attached) of what exchanges & when they are due to be upgraded has just been released by Plusnet.

Although this is for the 2mb upgrade initially, it is the same equipment etc.

I agree totally with what scastle said there,Thats why im leaving im just lucky ukonline are in my area now and i dont have to wait,The cap will not be a problem for a lot of people but some and not all heavy users will have to keep an eye on what there doing ,that will take half the fun out of the net i think.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by zoombini

A list (attached) of what exchanges & when they are due to be upgraded has just been released by Plusnet.

Although this is for the 2mb upgrade initially, it is the same equipment etc.

Sorry Zoomy that's completely irrelevant and relates to a completely different program which is of BT upgrading all users to 2Mbps connections between themselves and their exchange, and ISPs controlling the end user's speed they pay for at ISP side equipment.

The MaxDSL trials are a seperate issue entirely, and are still currently just running on a handful of exchanges with no schedule announced to expand these.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/07/bt_isp_roundup/ Am i right in assuming that Bt are trialing 8meg using current adsl architecture without using LLu or am i totally off track?

[zoombini]

Oh soz, perhaps a mod might like to put it into the correct thread (I have no idea where). or remove it then.