[merged] binary newsgroups on NTL - Page 13

15-03-2005, 18:23

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Originally Posted by ian@huth

The vast majority are illegal and yes they may come busting in if you download certain content.

it's a bit of a grey area, afaik, Ian - the ISP can not be prosecuted due to being considered the 'common carrier'.

the chances of anyone being monitored online are pretty slim (although ISP's are supposed to keep logs of groups visited, I don't think they monitor individual message downloads???).

where the illegality comes in is storing, copying or distributing any 'dodgy' content.

XiceWolf · 15-03-2005, 18:42

I cant understand how you download things from these emails full of random text.

I must be retarded.

15-03-2005, 18:53

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Originally Posted by XiceWolf

I cant understand how you download things from these emails full of random text.

I must be retarded.

Lookup info on a utility called yEnc - I think that's what's used to put the original data back together.

15-03-2005, 18:55

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Originally Posted by XiceWolf

I cant understand how you download things from these emails full of random text.

I must be retarded.

some of then may appear like that due to yEnc encoding, you need to use a different mail client than Outlook Express to view these, easily.

otherwise they have been chopped up into chunks - you should see they appear in 'groups' with the same filename & 'part 1 of 7' etc.

- to get these highlight all the messages in the 'group' (CTRL & left click on each one) - then right click on the selection & choose 'combine & decode' from the context menu. Once decoded choose the option to 'save attachments' & bob is your fathers brother.

Once you've done this a few times, you will see why heavy users of newsgroups use a news client that sorts all that out for them - as well as Yenc.

- and we havn't started on rar & par files yet

ian@huth · 15-03-2005, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by homealone

it's a bit of a grey area, afaik, Ian - the ISP can not be prosecuted due to being considered the 'common carrier'.

the chances of anyone being monitored online are pretty slim (although ISP's are supposed to keep logs of groups visited, I don't think they monitor individual message downloads???).

where the illegality comes in is storing, copying or distributing any 'dodgy' content.

It is a grey area and I am puzzled why ISPs are allowed to get away with it. ISPs are not liable for content that is requested by a customer and which passes through them to that customer. Proxies which cache the content could be said to have stored data that hasn't been requested because the original customer has got the file direct from the original site. Newsgroups are rather different because strictly speaking the content has not been requested by anyone.

The police do monitor newsgroups and certain sites, in particular those that are showing sexually explicit photos of underage subjects.

astra_lestat · 29-03-2005, 23:22

So, what's up?

Are NTL's binaries back and working well now?

pedrohizzo · 31-03-2005, 13:08

im having trouble with the binary newsgoups, namely binaries.multimedia, i know it worked on saturday but today i can't update it. i formatted my computer as it was clogged up, now it seems that multimedia wont work...anyone else got this problem?

31-03-2005, 16:50

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Originally Posted by pedrohizzo

im having trouble with the binary newsgoups, namely binaries.multimedia, i know it worked on saturday but today i can't update it. i formatted my computer as it was clogged up, now it seems that multimedia wont work...anyone else got this problem?

alt.binaries.multimedia currently has 3 headers, dated the 7th March 05 - so it is 'working', but not peering too well

WaryWolf · 02-04-2005, 02:21

over the last couple of days i grabbed a 6gb anime series from a.b.m.anime, refreshing the group works fine as well.

i'm quite pleased with my ntl service

02-04-2005, 07:42

if you use the newsreader newsbinpro you can use multiple news servers at the same time another try news.virgin.net as this has quite a good selection

chilin_dude · 11-04-2005, 15:52

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Originally Posted by pedrohizzo

im having trouble with the binary newsgoups, namely binaries.multimedia, i know it worked on saturday but today i can't update it. i formatted my computer as it was clogged up, now it seems that multimedia wont work...anyone else got this problem?

Same here... Also alt.binaries.tv seems to have gone

iron25 · 11-04-2005, 21:16

Anyone had experience with www.usenetserver.com if so what do you think of them with regard to speed/retention/completion.

11-04-2005, 21:19

Is it nntp? if so is it the first time you would have used one???

iron25 · 11-04-2005, 21:44

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Originally Posted by zinglebarb

Is it nntp? if so is it the first time you would have used one???

I'm looking at trying out their unlimited news groups service and was wondering if they are any good. I currently use claranews which has been awful lately so I've been using giganews and newshosting. I'm happy with newshosting but usenetserver offer the same service for the same price and I'd like to know how they compare.

11-04-2005, 22:00

If you sign up for a month and use newsbin pro for example which allows you to run off 2 or more servers you can compare