17-03-2005, 21:15
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Re: 18mbps
yeah ignition is right, if ntl rolled out the dsl just in current areas I think ofcom wouldnt do anything, but if they expanded into new areas giving ntl more coverage then ofcom would possibly reevaluate.
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17-03-2005, 23:08
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Re: 18mbps
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yeah ignition is right, if ntl rolled out the dsl just in current areas I think ofcom wouldnt do anything, but if they expanded into new areas giving ntl more coverage then ofcom would possibly reevaluate.
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I don't think it very likely that NTL would cable up any new areas in the foreseeable future.
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17-03-2005, 23:45
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Re: 18mbps
not talking about cabling I am talking about dsl, when NTL released that document about unbundling exchanges it mentioned NTL exapnding coverage with LLU, so it is possible NTL could use this is areas that havent been cabled so they can provide broadband in new areas.
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18-03-2005, 00:12
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Re: 18mbps
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
not talking about cabling I am talking about dsl, when NTL released that document about unbundling exchanges it mentioned NTL exapnding coverage with LLU, so it is possible NTL could use this is areas that havent been cabled so they can provide broadband in new areas.
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I thought this thread was about ADSL2+ on NTLs infrastructure.
NTL are going down the LLU avenue in non cabled areas which is another story altogether.
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18-03-2005, 14:23
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Re: 18mbps
yes I am talking about ADSL2.
Was it said that this will only be in cabled areas?
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18-03-2005, 14:40
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Re: 18mbps
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Originally Posted by Chrysalis
yes I am talking about ADSL2.
Was it said that this will only be in cabled areas?
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NTL will take advantage of any available technology whether it be on-net or off-net. The ADSL2+ trials were on NTL infrastructure which can support ADSL2+ at 18Mbps and beyond to the 95%+ homes that are under 1km from the fibre network. BT local loops only have around 5% of homes within 1km and therefore performance will degrade beyond this distance. This gives NTL an enormous advantage over current day xDSL providers.
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18-03-2005, 17:38
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Re: 18mbps
Yeah on this point BT are in trouble, NTL have a better fibre network putting most customers within reach of the high speeds.
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18-03-2005, 17:59
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Re: 18mbps
So when do we get it??
No really, an answer from someone working for NTL would be great on this. How far off is this?? 6Months? 1Year? More?
Am I asking to much? Hehehe.
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18-03-2005, 18:02
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Re: 18mbps
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So when do we get it??
No really, an answer from someone working for NTL would be great on this. How far off is this?? 6Months? 1Year? More?
Am I asking to much? Hehehe.
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You are soooooo asking for a "Coming soon" reply
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18-03-2005, 18:10
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Re: 18mbps
this was just a trial this speed was achieved through copper lines, however whether the speed of 18mbps is achievable in multi user application remains to be seen.
the financial prospects for NTL to be competative and become a leader in providing services such as 'high speed' internet and 'on demand' functions such as also HDTV are mammoth, achievable, but the company needs to realise this is a big oppertunity for itself, it just depends on how much investment is required to get the nessecary kit to customers, modems, boxes, to feed the signals for HDTV or a modification to standard 'cable' modems..
lets hope NTL dont sit on this one!
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18-03-2005, 23:02
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Re: 18mbps
will it mean that customer services will get better, will it mean less complaints, will it mean less outages and will it mean less email problems with ntl
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22-03-2005, 12:21
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Re: 18mbps
There is a new article on the register saying that NTL will be offering 24 Mbps ADSL2+ to its cabled homes:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/03/22/ntl_adsl2/
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22-03-2005, 12:44
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Re: 18mbps
hmm Bob thats nice reading there mate...just hope that NTL will do this before BT sets up their ADSL2 as it would mean that NTL would for a change have the better and faster service.
we'll see how this goes and what NTL will do...for say a 18mbps connection I wouldnt mind paying the extra few quids that are needed, the 1 thing I do hope that this kind of change would bring is higher upload speeds.
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22-03-2005, 12:56
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Re: 18mbps
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Originally Posted by levig
hmm Bob thats nice reading there mate...just hope that NTL will do this before BT sets up their ADSL2 as it would mean that NTL would for a change have the better and faster service.
we'll see how this goes and what NTL will do...for say a 18mbps connection I wouldnt mind paying the extra few quids that are needed, the 1 thing I do hope that this kind of change would bring is higher upload speeds.
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NTL is to launch an all-out assault on BT, in an aggressive marketing campaign against rival broadband providers.
From mid March, NTL intends to "match or beat ALL BT Broadband products on price, speed and usage allowance", according to a leaked memo
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/16/ntl_bt_assault/
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http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/02/14/bt_upgrade/
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22-03-2005, 16:09
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Re: 18mbps
With their speculation of BT making ADSL2+ available towards the end of the year, makes the timescale to speculate on this happening interesting...
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