[merged] binary newsgroups on NTL

[astra_lestat]

We should also stop using Windows or Linux as well because these OSs are the means for accessing illegal staff.

[Jonboy]

[QUOTE]We should also stop using Windows or Linux as well because these OSs are the means for accessing illegal staff.


NICE ONE

[Mattitude]

Excuse my stupidity, but how do I access ntl newsgroups?

Originally Posted by Mattitude

Excuse my stupidity, but how do I access ntl newsgroups?

I'm at work atm, so can't give precise instructions (we use Notes here, not Outlook Express), but in essence it is the same as adding a new email account

i.e. in Outlook Express in the 'accounts' dialog, choose 'add' & 'news' - DO NOT put your actual e-mail address as the 'reply' addy, use a made up one, the server name when requested is news.ntlworld.com.

- once the details are entered you will be invited to download the group headers.

Hope that makes sense

[goblin]

Originally Posted by homealone

I'm at work atm, so can't give precise instructions (we use Notes here, not Outlook Express), but in essence it is the same as adding a new email account

i.e. in Outlook Express in the 'accounts' dialog, choose 'add' & 'news' - DO NOT put your actual e-mail address as the 'reply' addy, use a made up one, the server name when requested is news.ntlworld.com.

- once the details are entered you will be invited to download the group headers.

Hope that makes sense

Or you could just click news://text.news.ntlworld.com it should, assuming Outlook Express is installed on the users system. Invoke OE and present them with the newsserver address.

If OE isn't installed on the system. Then they could email "news://text.news.ntlworld.com" - without the quotes " " obviously, to themselves and click on the link in OE and it will activate the news portion of the program.

Also, you don't just "make an address up" as there is a high probability that you will choose a address or domain name that someone owns ie: me@home.com or me@theoffice.co.uk for instance are all taken. So infact, you should advise that a user creates a "disposable" ie: hotmail or yahoo address and input that into the requested email field.

Once the server address is entered, the user will receive a popup "You are not subscribed to any newsgroups in this account. Would you like to view a list of newsgroups?". Press "Ok", and a group download will begin. Once complete, you are given the option of subscribing to various groups.

In the "Display newsgroups which contain" type something like "politics", "computers" or "ntl" and a list of groups containing those words shall be displayed. The user can then double click the groups they are interested in, or highlight the group names and click "subscribe". Once they have made their choices to the groups which they subscribe, the click on "Ok" and the group names shall appear on the left side of the screen under their email accounts.

The user can then click on the group name ie: "ntl.announce", and download the headers for that group. Once that has completed, they can view the group content by highlighting a subject line in much the same way as they would view their email using OE.

One important factor to consider is that you need to "lurk" in groups before posting into them. Make yourself aware of how the groups operate, not to mention familiarise yourself with how posts are made ie: Highlight a group, File\New News Post and enter the relevant details as you would an email. If you get a reply to a post you made, you can then further contribute to a "thread" or discussion by highlighting the relevant subject header, right click, select "Reply to Group". When typing your message, reply at the bottom, not the top. Failure to familiarise yourself with such group conventions usually results in a user getting "flamed" which equates to being insulted. If the user refuses to change their ways, after being flamed the next thing that can happen is a report is sent to their ISP or NSP so they can warn the user as to what they are doing wrong.

Also worth a mention is. As an OE user, if you want to check or construct an email. Be sure to highlight the "Inbox" as otherwise you will still be in News Mode, which could be embarassing if you accidentaly send a private correspondence to a friend but it ends up on a newsserver instead.

All the above uses OE, which whilst not the most ideal newsgroup client, will give a user an introduction on how usenet and newsgroups work from a "text" perspective. If they want more on how the binaries aspect works, then google for "usenet downloading" and all your questions will be answered..

Originally Posted by goblin

<snip>Also, you don't just "make an address up" as there is a high probability that you will choose a address or domain name that someone owns ie: me@home.com or me@theoffice.co.uk for instance are all taken. So infact, you should advise that a user creates a "disposable" ie: hotmail or yahoo address and input that into the requested email field.

Fair point, the important thing is not to have your real e-mail address associated with a news account.

Very good informative post

[Mattitude]

went for xnews

[PAZZA]

Originally Posted by BackToMine

NTL should drop the binary newsgroups and keep the text ones.

You can deny it til the cows come home, they are full of nothing but illegal material and kiddy porn.

Shows you are ill informed and never use the NTL binaries, NTL happily dont carry any of the child porn groups, however most of the pay newsservers do.

BTW NTL have a text only news server.
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Originally Posted by astra_lestat

We should also stop using Windows or Linux as well because these OSs are the means for accessing illegal staff.

I think all OSs allow access to such, the only real solution is to disconnect your PC from the internet perminantly, a further tip is to dig a small hole in the garden and bury your head in it.



Anyone have an new NTL binaries news? Is it worth trying again?

[XiceWolf]

What exactly can you get off ntl newsgroups ?

I followed the instructions goblin posted but I was under the impression you could download stuff from these newsgroups however all the groups I subcribed to just look like forums but in email format.

Forgive my stupidity

[sherer]

ok now that you have it setup in Outlook go to list of the newsgroups i.e right click the account you setup and select newsgroups..leave the tab on all and type in binaries.. you can then see all the groups that contact binaries.. i.e files you can download..

some will be in yenc format which outlook can't decode though..

yes alot of the groups are just like forums and are text only.. they cover most topics you can think off and quite a few you couldn't even imagine

[XiceWolf]

The newsgroups you pay for are legal then I take it ? And what kind of stuff can you get off the services you pay for ?

[PAZZA]

outlook is ok for viewing the text news, but if you want the binaries (mp3s, warez, etc) your best off with something reliable and easy to use, Grabit from www.shemes.com is very good, its freeware and very good, it even has a search

anyone have and ntl binaries news? is it working yet?
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Originally Posted by XiceWolf

The newsgroups you pay for are legal then I take it ? And what kind of stuff can you get off the services you pay for ?

mp3s, images, porn, console gamer, pc games, utilities, anything you can imagine appears there (and some things you cant!)

[XiceWolf]

Originally Posted by PAZZA

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mp3s, images, porn, console gamer, pc games, utilities, anything you can imagine appears there (and some things you cant!)

Is there anyone to search through the groups you join as Its only listing 300 headers I think.

So are the paid for services actually legal or are the feds going to bust through my windows when I download an mp3 ?

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by XiceWolf

Is there anyone to search through the groups you join as Its only listing 300 headers I think.

So are the paid for services actually legal or are the feds going to bust through my windows when I download an mp3 ?

The vast majority are illegal and yes they may come busting in if you download certain content.

[XiceWolf]

I dont get it, why do people pay to use a service thats illegal ?