14-03-2005, 19:26
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Re: The Youth of Today...
Very well said that man. Most kids don't get into trouble - can be full of cheek but who wasn't when they were a kid? There are also some truly miserable older folk who have a pop at kids just for knocking a ball about or whatever. So, a sense of perspective is indeed in order! There are some bad uns out there but also people are quicker nowadays to suspect and jump upon kids for being young and together (because of perception rather than reality).
This is not, incidentally, a defence of some of the grotesque acts detailed.
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14-03-2005, 19:38
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Re: The Youth of Today...
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Originally Posted by Gogogo
We need to remember that the only good news of the media in the UK is bad news, good news doesn't sell newspapers or make TV documentaries.
We need to try and keep a sense of proportion. I believe the majority of youth and do we mean teenagers, are generally ok, we only read or view the antics of the relatively few. It's very easy to think that the current generation of teenagers is worse than our own were but take a look and think.
I'm sure there are teenagers, many of them who do in fact lead decent lives. It's just that they don't make the headlines, they are not newsworthy enough, so let's be careful and not allow the troublesome few spoil the image of a generation.

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I try not to read newspapers too often, I get a lot of my news form what people post here or the odd trip to the BBC website.
I base my views on kids of today by walking down the street and seeing what they are upto, I see pensioners afraid to walk past groups of them, and I can honestly never remember that in my day. I see them run up the street throwing over all the bins on a nightly basis, I see them out until all hours, throwing stones at cars. etc etc etc.
No, I do not say thats all kids, but the increase is dramatic. Some may say its very few kids doing this sort of thing, but I would say it was almost unknown in my day. I had a group of kids throwing stones and verbal abuse for no reason a few months ago, they were then trying to bait me to follow them up a dark lane beside some shops. I just offered to take them all in the middle of the street, I know it was a silly thing to do, but these so called kids ie: young teenagers are capable of mugging adults.
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14-03-2005, 19:58
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Re: The Youth of Today...
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Originally Posted by andyl
Very well said that man. Most kids don't get into trouble - can be full of cheek but who wasn't when they were a kid? There are also some truly miserable older folk who have a pop at kids just for knocking a ball about or whatever. So, a sense of perspective is indeed in order! There are some bad uns out there but also people are quicker nowadays to suspect and jump upon kids for being young and together (because of perception rather than reality).
This is not, incidentally, a defence of some of the grotesque acts detailed.
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i wonder if you indeed own a car ???? , or do you live where kids like kicking balls against them or using them as goalposts !!!!! , somehow i think not  , how would you feel coming out in the morning to find a dent in the side of your car caused by some scrote whose parents couldnt give a *****
edit :- smug liberal :o , you must live in some sort of dream world my friend
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14-03-2005, 20:01
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Or perhaps have the door bent back by a 15 year old and his 18 year old brother. Then have some nice Liberal police officer say "He's a very nice boy, would you consider dropping the claim for compensation"
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14-03-2005, 20:08
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Or drunken louts who rip yer wing mirror off.
Didn't even bother calling the police or insurance, just get the araldite out again...
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14-03-2005, 20:18
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think thats the problem with crime stats, everyone knows the police won't catch the **** so people only call them now for the crime number
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14-03-2005, 20:24
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I don't know if anyones already mentioned this, but if you look at when teenage pregnancy first got quite high about 10-15 years ago, they raised the kids that they are today. Could there bad parenting and lack of maturity be a part of the children falling into society today?
(i'm a sociology student btw - so i come out with crap like this a lot! My own little theoies...  Hmmm who knows
Well i always remeber some quote i read once in a book i picked up. The quote is by a monk around 100BC in his journals he wrotes about times being bad when children are abusive and dont listen to there parents and other things...so its always been around, children should be locked up until there 20, then send em to work!!! Lol, joking...or am i?
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14-03-2005, 20:33
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End of the day to sum it all up, we have hordes of kids who are just arse-holes, parents who are either on the game, addicts, or just do NOT give a damn. And the cops are powerless because of lawsuits being filed, we are living in a state where you could buy a pizza and have it delivered to your house faster then a cop will come when your car has been damaged, or your house burguled.
There is no deterrent to them, they go jail is all cushy, so when they come out after a nice vacation they re-offend.
Now if we told the pc brigade to go right royally screw a lampost, and made cells 6ft by 9ft, one tiny window, bread and water with one decent meal a week ( with cheapo stuff ) and only a bible in there, or which ever religious preference they have. And no one to speak to, ankle chains and if they wish to be abusive handcuffs as well, and no luxurys just the raw basics. Would soon make them think.
Sadly we need a deterent and what we have right now is kids and gangs and crime level hitting new record highs..
Something needs to be done.
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14-03-2005, 20:41
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There is no deterrent to them, they go jail is all cushy, so when they come out after a nice vacation they re-offend.
Now if we told the pc brigade to go right royally screw a lampost, and made cells 6ft by 9ft, one tiny window, bread and water with one decent meal a week ( with cheapo stuff ) and only a bible in there, or which ever religious preference they have. And no one to speak to, ankle chains and if they wish to be abusive handcuffs as well, and no luxurys just the raw basics. Would soon make them think.
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Thats the spirit!!!
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14-03-2005, 20:56
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Did anyone see the story in today's news about the boy who fell off the roof of a warehouse (he WAS trespassing). He was 9 years old and suffered head injuries. Well, he's 18 now and just been awarded compensation of over £500k. Nice work if you can get it... I'm sure that will teach kids not trespass.
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14-03-2005, 22:06
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Did anyone see the story in today's news about the boy who fell off the roof of a warehouse (he WAS trespassing). He was 9 years old and suffered head injuries. Well, he's 18 now and just been awarded compensation of over £500k. Nice work if you can get it... I'm sure that will teach kids not trespass.
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http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=25624
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14-03-2005, 22:16
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Re: The Youth of Today...
Have you noticed that mr smug liberal has not replied to my husbands last comment?? Maybe he should try living in a once peaceful street, which was then disturbed by todays youth???? Come on give us a reply??? And even my mums car has been has been damaged by todays so called 'chavs'!!!!!!!
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14-03-2005, 22:28
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Maybe it hit a nerve Allie...
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14-03-2005, 22:35
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i know but how would you like it, we once had our back window smashed during the last euro footy games and we knew fine well who did it, infact they moved out of our street the next week!!!!!
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14-03-2005, 22:38
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Re: The Youth of Today...
I remember ages back to when a friend of mine has issues with neighbours who had there music on loud till 10pm blasting rap out and pop music, having bbqs almost every night.
Till she while they was out got a farmer to dump about a ton of cow crap on there front porch and over there old Ford Cortina.
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