*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please. - Page 90

Doofy · 13-03-2005, 13:17

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Originally Posted by Bill C

What did i warn you. Put the Anti knife in the back vest on. You have joined the dark side now

Apprently he gave me negative rep

ah well, it may eventually dawn on him and others like him that this is a no win situation for them, the cap is coming like it or not. The only choice they will have is take it or leave simple really IMO.

stuG · 13-03-2005, 13:52

Ignition, ok point taken but the idea that it will catch the main abusers still not valid in your opinion either?

If its valid, then surely its a way forward that is easier to manage

if its not valid maybe i should start getting the p2p programs on my machine, something i have refused to let on my machine. Although i have allowed mirc and this is a chat program and used it to enter the irc channel of cableforums.co.uk
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So Just to clarify for my mind....

Upload is not a problem anymore so ntl is would not be interested in people maxing out the upload but if I wish to use my connection to catchup with stuff that is potentially where ntl have a problem with me

I actually got the internet connection to download and now ntl would like me not to use that side because of the needs of other users (even if I don't go over the cap).

Who is ntl really after with this policy ... perhaps I read and guessed it wrong but "Heavy Users" being there using it 24/365 then maybe I thought that ppl that use the p2p programs were the targets and I guess not.

Seen as the arguement by many that these connections in this thread are potentially being used for illegal uses then surely this side of many peoples arguement including my own earlier posts will fall and as this seems to be the main arguement from some on this forum at throws a spanner in that arguement surely?.

Personally I do not like the idea of caps for an unlimited service - sold as an unlimited service but with the right communication this could have been so much less emotional for many. Splitting the service down into Limited and Unlimited may have been a better way forward in my opinion but I guess that would be too logical. limited is standard and unlimited you have to pay more for.

Monster Jedi · 13-03-2005, 13:59

Since the new speed upgrade. I've downloaded 53.82 gigs

.I feel very guilty.

Doofy · 13-03-2005, 14:04

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Originally Posted by Monster Jedi

Since the new speed upgrade. I've downloaded 53.82 gigs

.I feel very guilty.

And it is users like you who need restricting plain and simple, make the most of it soon as the caps are enforced the better.

scrotnig · 13-03-2005, 14:08

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Originally Posted by Doofy

And it is users like you who need restricting plain and simple, make the most of it soon as the caps are enforced the better.

If he had legitimate reason too, and it wasn't a pattern of usage that would be constantly repeated, he might not have a problem.

Doofy · 13-03-2005, 14:21

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Originally Posted by scrotnig

If he had legitimate reason too, and it wasn't a pattern of usage that would be constantly repeated, he might not have a problem.

53 gig in roughly 3 days is IMO way over the top. I have just been talikng to my neighbour who is on a 3 meg connection. He has been downloading from usenet since the 9th, now he has been pulling off dvds quicker than blockbusters rent them. He is downlaoding roughly 5 gig every 3 and a half hours, and has not stopped since his upgrade. This is simply not reasonable use and you can virtually guarantee that he is not the only one hammering there upgrades. It is users such as this that simply need booting off it is and will continue to have an impact on other users IMO, why should i pay my bill and have my internet experience at times become a pain in the **** simply because people need to download massive amounts of data. Bring on the caps.

Ignition · 13-03-2005, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Doofy

53 gig in roughly 3 days is IMO way over the top. I have just been talikng to my neighbour who is on a 3 meg connection. He has been downloading from usenet since the 9th, now he has been pulling off dvds quicker than blockbusters rent them. He is downlaoding roughly 5 gig every 3 and a half hours, and has not stopped since his upgrade. This is simply not reasonable use and you can virtually guarantee that he is not the only one hammering there upgrades. It is users such as this that simply need booting off it is and will continue to have an impact on other users IMO, why should i pay my bill and have my internet experience at times become a pain in the **** simply because people need to download massive amounts of data. Bring on the caps.

PM me his postcode and house number and I'll be happy to investigate

EDIT: Seriously give me the postcode and house number and I'll be more than happy to check it out, he's having a laugh really and I've no time for that kind of hammering.

jtwn · 13-03-2005, 14:40

What annoys me is that these people pull all this stuff is i doubt they watch or use it all themselves. If i download something, i'm going to use it, and then when i'm done, i'll move onto the next thing.

Only bad thing with the caps, i watch most stuff on my monitor as its fairly big (22"), runs at the HDTV resolutions and my computer can run the stuff flawlessly, so i like to get HDTV stuff, which weighs in at quite a lot

Then again, i'm guessing i'm one of a few in my area, as performance has never been bad, so hopefully its not hurting anybody else (not hurting other people in my area i know, at the least).

Monster Jedi · 13-03-2005, 14:40

Would you impact the service is you went onto AOL 2meg uncapped service?. Would it effect the bandwidth still?. Cos its only a fiver a month more.

jtwn · 13-03-2005, 14:44

Highest aol over ntl cable service is 1mb, iirc.

stuG · 13-03-2005, 14:49

Can anybody tell me if "Broadband Plus" is subject to the potential usuage limits?

http://www.ntlworld.com/broadbandplu...adbandpluscust

Me thinks this needs to reflect if it does.

Monster Jedi · 13-03-2005, 14:50

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Originally Posted by jtwn

Highest aol over ntl cable service is 1mb, iirc.

Looks like their webpage is wrong in advertiseing a 2meg connect then

Doofy · 13-03-2005, 15:02

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Originally Posted by Monster Jedi

Looks like their webpage is wrong in advertiseing a 2meg connect then

Just looked on there and the packages it offered me were up to 1mb on cable or 2 on bt phone line. Mind you having been a past user of AOL i'll think i would give them a miss.

Ignition · 13-03-2005, 15:26

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Originally Posted by Doofy

I have just been talikng to my neighbour who is on a 3 meg connection.

Which house number?

Rone · 13-03-2005, 15:28

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Originally Posted by scrotnig

What benefits do you expect to find in a speed upgrade, other than a speed upgrade?

Ah yes i forgot how popular a cap of such low proportion would be.