*ALL* Speed Upgrade Discussion In Here Please (Part 2)

[Neil]

Originally Posted by ian@huth

It is quite simple, ask Neil.

As simple as clicking on a link Ian: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...78&postcount=1

Getting ADSL is a matter of one phone call to BT, & signing up on the website of the ISP of your choice.

Nothing else needed.

Chrysalis-I'm afraid you appear to be talking nonsense.

[purenuman]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

isp name is telenor year 2002/2003, gives you something to google on now if you really feel its important.

You mean 6% then...



And they went to ISPs who introduced caps shortly after

[Stuart]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

Ok lets think for a moment, most of the UK populations see's this as the choice.

BT NTL AOL WANNADOO

BT play dirty games like I seen with my friend, his adsl install got put back a month then after he found out from nildram 3 hours later BT cold called him saying they could do it the next day if he switches to BT isp.

I'll admit, I have heard BT have been less than cooperative with other ISPs (from reputable news sources)

As a consumer the best isp's are generally unknown, which is why the poor ones have such high amount of customers. BT's cap has only been on for around a month or so they didnt activate it until january so I wouldnt expect much fallback from it until after 6 months then we will see if they carry on gaining customers.

There's nothing stopping the "better" ISPs advertising.

Leaving NTL isnt simple I say time and time again, it involves changing phone provider as well and some people are limited to NTL only, NTL DO have a local monopoly, they are not tied by the same guidelines that BT have by ofcom and the government and they dont have to wholesale their service.

If no other service were available locally, then NTL would have a local monopoly. There are few places in this country where ADSL is not available. Perhaps where it is not, people should be pressuring BT?
I will agree that changing telecoms suppliers is not easy, but it is possible.

Sorry I dont sit here all day posting every 15 mins, I dont know if people are been paid by ntl to or not but I have better things to do then spend the day arguing my point, I know I am not wanted by my isp as I dont fit their 50% operating profit requirement.

OK....As with Ianauth, not sure where you got the 50% requirment though.. I think NTL would be happy not to make a loss on a customer though.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Stop It

http://www.telenor.com/ir/presentati...ian_market.pdf

They lost 6, SIX percent of ADSL market share between 2002/2003, not 40. nice BS story though, shame you couldnt google it to check before proclaiming it.

They may have lost market share but look at the increase in customer numbers and revenue. I can't see a loss of 40% of their customers rather a huge gain in the number of customers and that's with increased capping.

What will the next super revelation be, it makes you wonder.

[Foo Fighter]

Originally Posted by Foo Fighter

Rang up told the CS girl she said the upgrade is in the pipeline but theres no definate date, i said it starts 17th of march and and explained the whole upgrade lol. She said i seem to know more than CS.

She wouldn't give me upgrade so i said i want to upgrade to 1.5mb so she had to upgarde me lol.

Nice new sammy due on friday

Well in true ntl style they showed up, he asked what needs doing i said i need a sammy and he didnt look happy, he didnt have any samsungs on him and neither did any other installer in the francise. So he gave me another pace stb for no reason to get paid for the job which is fair enough. Said he'd be back later as someone was bringing some sammys down from manchester but never came back. Hope he shows up tommorow now

You gotta love this company, no two parts of it communicate with each other they could easily have put samsung needed on the job detail .

Good luck trying to get a samsung in a few weeks there like gold dust now by the looks of things

Originally Posted by ian@huth

They may have lost market share but look at the increase in customer numbers and revenue. I can't see a loss of 40% of their customers rather a huge gain in the number of customers and that's with increased capping.

What will the next super revelation be, it makes you wonder.

Originally Posted by Stop It

http://www.telenor.com/ir/presentati...ian_market.pdf

They lost 6, SIX percent of ADSL market share between 2002/2003, not 40. nice BS story though, shame you couldnt google it to check before proclaiming it.

Well said




Its all the same wild statements as we have seen before. I am starting to get bored with it now. I dont think i need to bring up the other wild and wacky statements we have been subjected to However look at my sig if you do need reminding

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by scrotnig

You don't half talk some pure unadulterated tripe.

Totally.

I said this weeks ago and got 3 red reps from the cronies for my trouble. I think since they have realised that one of theirs is worth 1/30th of mine but hey - its fun learning

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by scrotnig

You don't half talk some pure unadulterated tripe.

says it all
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Originally Posted by Neil

As simple as clicking on a link Ian: http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...78&postcount=1

Getting ADSL is a matter of one phone call to BT, & signing up on the website of the ISP of your choice.

Nothing else needed.

Chrysalis-I'm afraid you appear to be talking nonsense.

HAHA

1 - ADSL isnt available in all cable areas
2 - Some landlords dont allow BT
3 - It needs a BT line might be restricted by parents etc.

wait.. it is simple just move house

[Chrysalis]

Originally Posted by purenuman

You mean 6% then...



And they went to ISPs who introduced caps shortly after

Dunno where the 40% came from that number was from somewhere, but 6% was obviously enough to make them revert.

Now I await for the vultures to come in on this mistake and claim everything I say is wrong.

[scrotnig]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

HAHA

1 - ADSL isnt available in all cable areas
2 - Some landlords dont allow BT
3 - It needs a BT line might be restricted by parents etc.

wait.. it is simple just move house

Are you for real?
1) Cable isn't available in all ADSL areas either.

2) NTL have a monopoly because some landlords won't allow BT to be installed? But wait! Some landlords won't allow ntl to be installed as well!

3) Might be restricted by parents? I see, so ntl should have their ability to compete restricted by monopolies regulations on the grounds that someone's parents won't allow a competing service to be installed? Like I said earlier, you don't half talk some pure unadulterated crap.

Were you drunk when you wrote that post, since I cannot believe you're actually serious about it.

[etccarmageddon]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

3 - It needs a BT line might be restricted by parents etc.

what! blame the parents for no ADSL!

[Neil]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

HAHA

1 - ADSL isnt available in all cable areas

& Vice Versa.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

2 - Some landlords dont allow BT

That is just pure, 100% garbage, & by posting such weak replies you are highlighting the fact that you have run out of sensible things to say.

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

3 - It needs a BT line might be restricted by parents etc.

Ah.....diddums.....

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

wait.. it is simple just move house

It is if you have half a brain about you. All you need to do is ring BT & get the line taken back, then go onto Pipex/BT's/Nildram website & sign up-it couldn't get much easier, even for someone like you.

[mmm]

Originally Posted by Mick

Oh the memories and the reasons why I got BB as well, what with dialup and in the days of metered dialup, no internet before 6pm , clock watching, crap download rates. Who remembers the joys of X-Stream 0800?
...

I do, did you find out how to crash the advert stream which sppeded up the free connection by at least 10% (dead slow to very slow!)

I also had freemail which was email via 0800.

[Horace]

Originally Posted by neil

 3Mb - £37.99 †“ 1GB per day (same as 1.5Mb usage allowance)

I thought the allowance was balanced over a month and not daily, also thought that the higher speed package was getting a higher allowance. Someone enlighten me.
I guess it's pretty pointless staying on the highest tier now since 1.5mb/s is fast enough for me so 2mb will also suffice. No point in throwing away cash. I won't be suprised if a lot of people leave the highest tier and probably the service as a whole when hard capping comes in later in the year if the 1gb per day cap stays and is enforced.
NTL will struggle getting new customers on the two top tiers too where they have a choice of adsl.
According to the Adslguide poll of 15,000 people only 10% of users use less than 1gig/day..strange considering what gets regularly quoted here. Maybe 13,000 people were lying in the poll.

Originally Posted by Horace

According to the Adslguide poll of 15,000 people only 10% of users use less than 1gig/day..strange considering what gets regularly quoted here. Maybe 13,000 people were lying in the poll.

Methinks you're confusing 1GB per MONTH with 1GB per DAY in these results