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Old 19-02-2005, 17:56   #1
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Is it just me or have the binary newsgroups all stopped being updated since about 2:30pm today?
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Old 19-02-2005, 18:08   #2
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
I just looked in a couple of groups & headers were timestamped latest 00.17 for today.

So looks like it isn't just you ..........
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Old 20-02-2005, 01:39   #3
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
Looks like their miserable excuse for a news service finally died then!

Either that or they're removing all binary groups as a cost cutter for the forthcoming speed upgrades

A case of what NTL giveth with one hand, they taketh away with the other ?
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Old 20-02-2005, 02:00   #4
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
More like they giveth with one hand, then use both hands to take two away. :P
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Old 20-02-2005, 08:39   #5
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
Hey kids!
Why not try www.newshosting.com unlimited newsgroup access for $14.99.
I did and havent looked back since!!
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Old 20-02-2005, 10:03   #6
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
Claranews are better. UK based, pings of 10-20.

I would never use a newsgroup provider out of Europe - sloooooow!

http://www.uk.clara.net/homeaccess/claranews.php
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
Astraweb always works for me, averages around 700kbps. They do have a few niggles now and again but generally they are ok, plus you can buy a set ammount of Gigs for a 'one off' fee and use them whenever, no time limit, so you are not locked into a repeating monthly fee.
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
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Claranews are better. UK based, pings of 10-20.

I would never use a newsgroup provider out of Europe - sloooooow!

http://www.uk.clara.net/homeaccess/claranews.php
Yeah, 150KB/s is so slow! It's unlimited downloads for about £8 a month. It's a great service. I've used it for about a year now. Never had a problem with them.
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Claranews are better. UK based, pings of 10-20.

I would never use a newsgroup provider out of Europe - sloooooow!

http://www.uk.clara.net/homeaccess/claranews.php
£29 a year is OK... Will it work ok with NTL (750kb) & X-News Program??
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£29 a year is OK... Will it work ok with NTL (750kb) & X-News Program??
Hmm, but remember ALL the data downloaded is counted against your 10Gig a month limit, that includes headers. If you're in a busy group that can be a lot of data if you choose to catch up with new headers, or even download all headers!
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
Im pretty sure the limit is higher than 10gig somehow...
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Im pretty sure the limit is higher than 10gig somehow...
Not for the plan JediMaster quoted.

Product Name GB Per Month Monthly Price Annual Price
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News 20 20GB £5.99 inc VAT £49.99 inc VAT
News 40 40GB £7.99 inc VAT £69.99 inc VAT
News Unlimited £11.99 inc VAT £99.99 inc VAT
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Hmm, but remember ALL the data downloaded is counted against your 10Gig a month limit, that includes headers. If you're in a busy group that can be a lot of data if you choose to catch up with new headers, or even download all headers!
10GB a month is FINE...
30GB a Month with NTL. I use 11GB MAX. Thats with News Groups. So 10GB is fine I think
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10GB a month is FINE...
30GB a Month with NTL. I use 11GB MAX. Thats with News Groups. So 10GB is fine I think
I'd consider if you need a seperate subscription newsgroup service then. You don't seem to be downloading a huge amount, so do you need a binary service? NTL probably do a good enough text service.

Anyway, I was just highlighting the fact that their limits include header downloads too, which to me is a bit poor. Most news service providers allow you free downloading of the headers without it counting against your limit. When I was on the newshosting 40Gig plan you knew that the headers weren't part of the limit.
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Re: binary newsgroups on NTL
Clara's retention is poor these days, worse than a lot of ISPs.

Newshosting's retention is around 26 days on all groups, and it consistently maxes out my 2Mbps DSL. Header downloads come in at over 200kB/s, 2 threads maxes me.

Certainly not slow at all even though it's in the USA, still a lot of bandwidth trans-Atlantic.
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