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Old 19-02-2005, 13:40   #46
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Re: The future

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Also lets not forget the NNTP servers that go a lot faster than that!
Oh no, not that old chestnut again

I remember arguing about the use of NNTP for binary distribution at least 5 years ago, when 512k was considered fast. The costs for the provider were massive then and still are now. Its just too inefficient and wasteful a distribution method...
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BT will have fibre to the home before NTL or Telewest id wager a fair few quid on that.
OK, I'll double.

Can't see BT rolling out fibre to more than the most selective city centre locations (LLU coverage as of 12 months ago) for at least a decade. They don't have fibre anywhere NEAR the customer. Telewest and NTL have fibre within 500metres of 40% of the UK population already. I think that gives them a good base to start from!
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Or am I thinking of how far ADSL2+ and VDSL will work?
Oops, just noticed my dodgy quoting in that last post. The first line of the reply somehow became the quote
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Old 19-02-2005, 17:01   #47
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OK, I'll double.

Can't see BT rolling out fibre to more than the most selective city centre locations (LLU coverage as of 12 months ago) for at least a decade. They don't have fibre anywhere NEAR the customer. Telewest and NTL have fibre within 500metres of 40% of the UK population already. I think that gives them a good base to start from!
Read up on the BT 21st Century Network, planned to be completely in place by 2009.
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Old 19-02-2005, 19:04   #48
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Re: The future

It nice reading about everyones desire for 2mb and 8 mb BB but I am still on 56k dial up because of where i live ( and probably evermore unless i change my providor)


I would like any increase even the 300kb service
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Old 19-02-2005, 19:32   #49
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It nice reading about everyones desire for 2mb and 8 mb BB but I am still on 56k dial up because of where i live ( and probably evermore unless i change my providor)


I would like any increase even the 300kb service
Thats what puzzles me though, why dont you change provider?
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Old 19-02-2005, 22:32   #50
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Read up on the BT 21st Century Network, planned to be completely in place by 2009.
That's a replacement of the backhaul to put telephony on an IP network. Only a very small trial of loop access on two exchanges. And we all know what happens when BT trial stuff...
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Old 20-02-2005, 07:53   #51
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Thats what puzzles me though, why dont you change provider?

Why should I pay for 2 providors for my phone service.??!!!
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Why should I pay for 2 providors for my phone service.??!!!
I dont follow you here, why should you pay NTL for a dated service, why not get BT and ADSL?
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Old 20-02-2005, 16:29   #53
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I dont follow you here, why should you pay NTL for a dated service, why not get BT and ADSL?
Why is NTLs voice network dated just because they have taken a coax route to move data, not ADSL. That is the technically superior route to take (even though their implementation may not be great at times).
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Old 20-02-2005, 16:32   #54
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Think the reference is to the fact that Sarf London can't get broadband.
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