*ALL* Speed Upgrade Discussion In Here Please - Page 37

Neil · 14-02-2005, 15:25

Let's keep this On Topic please folks.....

Off topic posts will just get deleted.

fire · 14-02-2005, 15:31

If they do port throttle you can change the ports in bittorent and emule etc.

jtwn · 14-02-2005, 15:31

Surely anyway even if port throttling was to happen in a p2p sense, you could just tunnel it through another port and escape the limited speeds?

Or is it possible to figure this out by inspecting the packets? (thats just a complete random guess from something in the back of my mind

).

I'm just going to see how i go with these new caps, I don't want to leave but if i keep getting bumped down earlier in the month, i'll go elsewhere, that is if any uncapped isps still exist then.

Ignition · 14-02-2005, 15:36

Serious throttling of P2P traffic is done by deep packet inspection and protocol analysis. No escape from this whatever ports you use.

PC_Arcade · 14-02-2005, 15:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignition

RE: ED2K connections, installed XP Service Pack 2 recently?

Nope
I'm unable to do so due to lack of HD space

Neil · 14-02-2005, 15:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtwn

Surely anyway even if port throttling was to happen in a p2p sense, you could just tunnel it through another port and escape the limited speeds?

Nope.

Quote:

Originally Posted by jtwn

Or is it possible to figure this out by inspecting the packets? (thats just a complete random guess from something in the back of my mind

).

Pretty much.

[Edit]-Damn that Ignition!

fire · 14-02-2005, 15:46

I had no idea they could do that,well it is good that there are a lot of other isp`s out there.With the speed increases i may downgrade to 2mbps it is faster than what i have at the moment plus i will save money.Is anyone else thinking of doing this?

Stuart · 14-02-2005, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignition

Serious throttling of P2P traffic is done by deep packet inspection and protocol analysis. No escape from this whatever ports you use.

Didn't A,T&T do some research which suggested you could hazard a good guess as to the number of devices attached to a router this way as well?

ProfPete · 14-02-2005, 16:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignition

I'm quite happy to say that no Layer 4 traffic management is done by NTL, apart from the transparent caching you all know and love.

Weren't they dabbling with layer 7 bandwidth shaping (or at least prioritising) - I'm sure I had someone send me a link to the tech spec for the kit in use - I thought it was being trialled at the swansea head end? Or did they give up on it?

Matth · 14-02-2005, 16:48

Well, it makes my mind up - upgrading to 1Mbit/5Gb was a bit of a toss-up, but 1Mbit/3Gb instead of 300k and "really don't have to worry" - no way! - almost glad, actually, as now I won't be tempted to upgrade and then worry about quota - my monitoring was on target for 3Gb (probably less) without finding anything worth downloading - some of my forums have way too much graphics and are not cache friendly.

To take the streaming example - a 128k stream for 2 hours a day, would blow the 3Gb quota before the month is up, but is comfortably within the capability of 300k - anything that needs more than 300k, you can just hear that meter ticking. Dialup speed for the rest of the month?

The only question now is to stay with NTL, or dump them for ADSL - if AOL stick to "no limits" and upgrade their basic package to 512k, it looks very tempting indeed.

claret · 14-02-2005, 17:05

It will be interesting how the boxes cope....

I had to get a modem installed, due to my box not being able to cope with 1mb Broadband, when they upgraded to 1.5mb(i dropped to 750k)they were going to change to the silver box, is this the plan for everyone, or will we just hobble along, with losing connections/picture freezing etc...

etccarmageddon · 14-02-2005, 17:11

why dump NTL now? do it if/when they drop your speed to 56k.

Chrysalis · 14-02-2005, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ignition

Serious throttling of P2P traffic is done by deep packet inspection and protocol analysis. No escape from this whatever ports you use.

Is this packet sniffing? if so I am quite against this as its against my privacy.

ntluser · 14-02-2005, 17:45

I have 2 Pace STBs.. one downstairs for my mainTV and broadband and the other in my daughter's bedroom for her TV.

I'm hoping to upgrade from the 750k broadband service to the 2Mb service when it becomes available as the monthly rental is the same.

I understand that the Pace box will have to be swapped as it cannot cope with the 2Mb speed. If that's the case will NTL change both boxes for the Samsung boxes I've heard so much about or will they change just the one downstairs?

And what will I be charged for all this please?

kronas · 14-02-2005, 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ntluser

I have 2 Pace STBs.. one downstairs for my mainTV and broadband and the other in my daughter's bedroom for her TV.

I'm hoping to upgrade from the 750k broadband service to the 2Mb service when it becomes available as the monthly rental is the same.

I understand that the Pace box will have to be swapped as it cannot cope with the 2Mb speed. If that's the case will NTL change both boxes for the Samsung boxes I've heard so much about or will they change just the one downstairs?

And what will I be charged for all this please?

i dont think they will change both, they will only change the one that you want to upgrade the broadband on, it seems there is no charge to you for doing this.