*ALL* Speed Upgrade Discussion In Here Please - Page 24

thomson · 05-02-2005, 22:45

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Originally Posted by Nikko

Am I to surmise from that question that you do not understand?

Yes you would be right

garyparson · 06-02-2005, 04:11

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Originally Posted by ianathuth

Likewise if I lost a pound for everytime the search function was used I wouldn't lose much

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I wish I had a quid every time someone made a smart arse comment followed by a smiley.

Neil · 06-02-2005, 07:05

Let's keep the discussion on topic here please peeps.

Any more off topic stuff will just get deleted without warning.

Horace · 06-02-2005, 13:00

Apologies if this has already been mentioned, in a cyber cafe in spain with a meter so I donÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â´t have time to read all the thread but will the cutbacks affect the speed upgrades since it mentions "no network upgrades".
Also what is the maximum speed a pace box can handle and why is that since CM technology is quite old now, confused as to why it seems so limited.

06-02-2005, 13:13

No indication (yet!) that the cutbacks will affect the speed upgrades.
The maximum speed the Pace boxes will handle is 1 Meg (according to some posts here, they will actually handle more, but with decreasing reliability, so NTL will replace with Samsung for anything faster). AFAIK the limiting factor is processing power, as the box has to handle DTV as well as Broadband. I understand the Samsungs hace two processors, thus can handle the higher speeds, even though the technology and software is basically the same.

MrBen · 08-02-2005, 10:02

Just got an alert from Neowin...

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Originally Posted by NeoWin

AOL UK have announced that they are doubling the speed of thier broadband service to all thier UK customers at no extra cost. Current subscribers will have to wait upto 6 months for the upgrade to take place, whereas new customers joining after 7th February will instantly receive the double speed

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All new AOL Broadband Gold members on the ntl cable network will also receive a broadband service of speeds up to 1Mbps from Monday 7 February 2005. Existing AOL Broadband Gold members on the ntl cable network will be upgraded from the current speed of up to 750 Kbps to a faster connection of up to 1 Mbps as quickly as possible.

http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?i...&category=main

So perhaps it won't be long now before regular ntl broadband customers get the opportunity to upgrade

Ben

Neil · 08-02-2005, 10:08

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Originally Posted by MrBen

Just got an alert from Neowin...

http://www.neowin.net/comments.php?i...&category=main

So perhaps it won't be long now before regular ntl broadband customers get the opportunity to upgrade

Ben

That's history, not news.....

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...ad.php?t=23692

MrBen · 08-02-2005, 10:10

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Originally Posted by Neil

That's history, not news.....

I did search on AOL to check but it's too short for the search engine here... so i thought what the heck

just21 · 08-02-2005, 15:16

NTL need to get these speed increases out asap and then announce another increase to at least 8mb. By the autumn I will be able to get 8mb from BT and UKonline, as well as 4mb including line rental from Bulldog. I am sure there are other areas, apart from London, where there will be this level of competition soon.

ian@huth · 08-02-2005, 15:30

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Originally Posted by just21

NTL need to get these speed increases out asap and then announce another increase to at least 8mb. By the autumn I will be able to get 8mb from BT and UKonline, as well as 4mb including line rental from Bulldog. I am sure there are other areas, apart from London, where there will be this level of competition soon.

It must be nice to be able to predict the future so accurately. But, if you are right, will those higher speeds be subject to any restrictions that may affect how you can use the connection. Don't forget that even today the majority of high bandwidth users on so called unlimited services could have their contracts terminated for breach of terms and conditions. Think about it.

just21 · 08-02-2005, 15:38

Ukonline has a 500gb cap, Bulldog has no cap. What is the NTL cap 30GB?

jtwn · 08-02-2005, 15:41

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Originally Posted by just21

Ukonline has a 500gb cap, Bulldog has no cap. What is the NTL cap 30GB?

Compare it to some of the more mainstream isps and they are fairly competitive.

edit: I'm not entirely disagreeing with you, i think it sucks aswell :/

ian@huth · 08-02-2005, 15:49

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Originally Posted by just21

Ukonline has a 500gb cap, Bulldog has no cap. What is the NTL cap 30GB?

You didn't think hard enough!

UKonline may have a 500 gb cap but if they terminated the contract of every user who breached their AUP they would lose the majority of their heavy users. Look at section 1 of the AUP.

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Originally Posted by UKonline

1. UNLAWFUL AND ILLEGAL USE

The UK Online Network and Service may be used for lawful purposes only and in compliance with all current and future statutes in force from time to time. You agree not to use the Service to send or receive materials or data which is or may be in violation of any law or regulation or which is defamatory, offensive, abusive, indecent, obscene, or constitutes harassment or in breach of confidence, privacy, trade secrets or in breach of any third party Intellectual Property rights (including copyright) or in breach of any other rights or has any fraudulent purpose of effect.

You are prohibited from storing, distributing or transmitting or permitting the storage distribution or transmission (whether intentionally or otherwise)_of, any unlawful material through the Service. Examples of unlawful material include: direct threats of physical harm; hardcore and child pornography; and copyrighted, trademarked and other proprietary material used without proper authorisation. You may not post, upload or otherwise distribute or permit the posting, uploading or distribution (whether intentionally or otherwise)_of copyrighted material on our servers without the consent of the copyright holder. In the event UK Online becomes aware of any breach of this Clause 1 UK Online may take any of the actions outlined in Clause 8 below. The storage, distribution, or transmission of unlawful materials could also lead to UK authorities alleging criminal liability.

The important fact that many are overlooking when talking about caps is that ALL ISPs have clauses which they can use to terminate the contracts of most heavy users.

Oooops, I have probably just breached UKonlines copyright with that quote.

just21 · 08-02-2005, 15:55

I just want to download files quicker. NTL has been very reliable, only one outage since I have had it, but they need to remain competitive with download speeds or people will use adsl.

Chrysalis · 08-02-2005, 20:08

ianathuth please dont accuse heavier users to be all into piracy their is different uses for the traffic and its each user's right for privacy of what they use their connection for, you are not the internet police and you are not there to judge other's. If an ISP has proof of a user breaking the AUP then of course they can take the matter further with that customer.