Buying a Washing Machine - Page 3

greencreeper · 24-01-2005, 08:02

I guess it'll have to be one of those Zanussi's then

I'll be blaming you all if I come home to find the sofa afloat

etccarmageddon · 24-01-2005, 08:10

I have a zannusi washer dryer - after around 18 months the pump died which was fixed under the warranty.

if you buy an extended warranty for it - buy on your credit card. I bought one with a 'cashback' from powerplan 5 years ago and not only have I lost most of the cash back but also the warranty repairs service has been affected. scottish power ran the company and sold it on during the warranty period - the new company went into administration.

if you buy on credit card you can make a claim against the credit card company even at 5 years!

nuttyhaze2000 · 24-01-2005, 09:38

how do i find out if i have an earth leakage on my board,im just a mere woman,i havent got a clue.could u please help me out

thankyou

iadom · 24-01-2005, 10:02

Not something you would be able to check yourself without the right equipment,
I have replied to your PM's with some further suggestions.

Edit, forgot to ask you, do have any sign of a leak, however small on your machine ?

paulyoung666 · 24-01-2005, 10:39

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Originally Posted by nuttyhaze2000

how do i find out if i have an earth leakage on my board,im just a mere woman,i havent got a clue.could u please help me out

thankyou

if i read your other post properly , did you mean all the power goes off in the house ??????? , when the power goes off , do you just flick a switch on the consumer board to turn it back on again ??????

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Originally Posted by iadom

Not something would be able to check yourself without the right equipment,
I have replied to your PM's with some further suggestions.

Edit, forgot to ask you, do have any sign of a leak, however small on your machine ?

if the whole power to the house is going off then it would suggest an earth leakage problem , would it not ?????? , if it only knocked the sockets off i would have thought it would be an old fashioned board with individual fuses

Nanook · 24-01-2005, 10:41

Anyone got one of those huge Dysons?

iadom · 24-01-2005, 10:58

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Originally Posted by paulyoung666

if the whole power to the house is going off then it would suggest an earth leakage problem , would it not ?????? , if it only knocked the sockets off i would have thought it would be an old fashioned board with individual fuses

The modern RCD's are very sensitive and I have seen machines trip one time then run perfectly for many months before doing it again. I have checked these appliances and can find no trace of current leakage.
In this case I suspect a fault is developing in the motor, possibly the armature, ( may be worn brushes but it would not revolve at all with completely worn brushes) this would cause the RCD to trip when gonig into spin, the arcing that happens at this time can trip the RCD. It is an out side possibility that a wire is loose or chafed, this may only be touching internal metal parts when the machine goes into spin due to the extra sideways movement that sometimes occurs during spin. Also if there is a slight leak the water could splashed around during spin but fall harmlessly on the floor during wash.

24-01-2005, 11:20

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Originally Posted by iadom

The modern RCD's are very sensitive and I have seen machines trip one time then run perfectly for many months before doing it again. I have checked these appliances and can find no trace of current leakage.
In this case I suspect a fault is developing in the motor, possibly the armature, ( may be worn brushes but it would not revolve at all with completely worn brushes) this would cause the RCD to trip when gonig into spin, the arcing that happens at this time can trip the RCD. It is an out side possibility that a wire is loose or chafed, this may only be touching internal metal parts when the machine goes into spin due to the extra sideways movement that sometimes occurs during spin. Also if there is a slight leak the water could splashed around during spin but fall harmlessly on the floor during wash.

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...7&postcount=20

- doh I meant brushes, not bushes

zoombini · 24-01-2005, 11:21

What's up with the Servis products then? what's so bad about them?

iadom · 24-01-2005, 11:32

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Originally Posted by homealone

http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...7&postcount=20

- doh I meant brushes, not bushes

You are not alone, in fact most people say to me ,"I think my bushes have gone". Cue me looking out into the garden with a sarcastic look on my face.

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What's up with the Servis products then? what's so bad about them?

25 years or more ago, Servis was the domestic appliance arm of a firm called Wilkins & Mitchell. They mainly produced the heavy industrial presses used in the motor industry. When the British motor industry went down the tubes in the 60'/70's the firm went into a major decline. The Servis name was sold off to an oil company called Tricentrol if my memory is correct. This did not last for very long and at the time you would have been able to purchase the whole business for ÃƒÆ’Ã†â€™ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…Â¡ÃƒÆ’Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â£1 if you accepted the liabilities. I am not sure of the person involved but a Welsh ''asset stripper' bought the company for an sum of which I am not sure. He closed all the factories, laid of most of the staff and for many years has imported fairly cheap foreign machines into this country with the Servis name on them. They have a very poor reputation in the trade. I would not cross the street to my grandmother to repair a Servis appliance.

nuttyhaze2000 · 24-01-2005, 17:17

no i have no leaks from my machine
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it knocks all my electric out and i have 2 flick a switch 2 get it all back on again
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i have no leaks from my washer
it spins but when it goes 2 a really good spin my whole electric goes

SMHarman · 24-01-2005, 17:37

Then the motor is arcing and tripping the RCD / MCB etc.

paulyoung666 · 24-01-2005, 18:27

kinda where i was coming from

SMHarman · 24-01-2005, 23:37

My electrician ran two kitchen rings one for the wet goods and the other for the sockets and fridge. The wet goods can trip the circuit, but the fridge keeps the food cool.
Not that the Bosch washing machine does this.

iadom · 25-01-2005, 10:08

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

Not that the Bosch washing machine does this.

Neither does my 25 year old British built Hotpoint.

Just remind us who built the Aurora.