Now the shoe is on the other foot....
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Sweet... now remind me about political correctness...
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13-01-2005, 13:44
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13-01-2005, 13:45
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A LONG way to go before we get that.....
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13-01-2005, 14:03
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*wanders off to find something worth-wile reading.
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13-01-2005, 14:04
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Ridiculous. They should not be banned from waving flags, and nor should anyone else. It's all very well seeing this as equality at last, but if it ultimately serves to further justify the banning of the Union flag, or St George's cross, then what have we gained in the end?
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13-01-2005, 14:07
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Ridiculous. They should not be banned from waving flags, and nor should anyone else. It's all very well seeing this as equality at last, but if it ultimately serves to further justify the banning of the Union flag, or St George's cross, then what have we gained in the end?
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I disagree. Everyone should be allowed to wave their flags or no-one should.
Fact is they have CHOSEN, or their parents have, to live in BRITAIN- so they should abide by the customs there and not impose their lifestyle on the inhabitants. When in Rome...
I have no problem with asylum seekers or immigrants if they INTEGRATE and CONTRIBUTE. If they upset the harmony in the country and sponge off benefits they can sod off IMO.
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13-01-2005, 14:12
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Fact is they have CHOSEN, or their parents have, to live in BRITAIN- so they should abide by the customs there and not impose their lifestyle on the inhabitants. When in Rome...
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What on earth has that got do do with people celebrating and waving a flag? People will be banning flags at mardi gra next. Are people in this country really this petty?
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13-01-2005, 14:14
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Fact is they have CHOSEN, or their parents have, to live in BRITAIN- so they should abide by the customs there and not impose their lifestyle on the inhabitants. When in Rome...
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What on earth has that got do do with people celebrating and waving a flag? People will be banning flags at mardi gra next. Are people in this country really this petty? |
Yeah but it's usually them that stop US celebrating things that we have for years.
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13-01-2005, 14:21
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I disagree. Everyone should be allowed to wave their flags or no-one should.
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If you think that everyone should be allowed to wave their flags or no-one should, then you are not disagreeing with me. That is what I meant when I said:
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They should not be banned from waving flags, and nor should anyone else.
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Fact is they have CHOSEN, or their parents have, to live in BRITAIN- so they should abide by the customs there and not impose their lifestyle on the inhabitants. When in Rome...
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Right. So now I live in Scotland, do you think I should not be allowed to wear an England football shirt or fly St George's flag should I want to? Or that a Scot living in London should not be allowed to wear a kilt in Oxford Street on St Andrew's Day?
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I have no problem with asylum seekers or immigrants if they INTEGRATE and CONTRIBUTE. If they upset the harmony in the country and sponge off benefits they can sod off IMO.
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The overwhelming majority of 'immigrants' and their descendants have done just that. Or are you claiming that the majority of the 3.6 million people in this country who now live here but were born outside the EU are 'spongers'?
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13-01-2005, 14:25
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Yeah but it's usually them that stop US celebrating things that we have for years.
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When were you ever stopped from celebrating anything? 
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13-01-2005, 14:29
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I disagree. Everyone should be allowed to wave their flags or no-one should.
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If you think that everyone should be allowed to wave their flags or no-one should, then you are not disagreeing with me. That is what I meant when I said:
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They should not be banned from waving flags, and nor should anyone else.
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I was referring to them using it as an excuse to ban OUR flag.
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Fact is they have CHOSEN, or their parents have, to live in BRITAIN- so they should abide by the customs there and not impose their lifestyle on the inhabitants. When in Rome...
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Right. So now I live in Scotland, do you think I should not be allowed to wear an England football shirt or fly St George's flag should I want to? Or that a Scot living in London should not be allowed to wear a kilt in Oxford Street on St Andrew's Day?
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slightly different. Look in places like Oldham, Burnley, etc, some parts they've even reflected the ethnic mix by having signs in Urdu. In some parts of England you can't fly the St Georges flag without being told to take it down because it's either "racist" or "inciting racial hatred". I'm not against people flying flags, it's slightly different to alienating the "natives" by demanding their lifestyle, laws, customs are changed. Slightly different to wearing a football shirt, kilt or waving a flag.
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I have no problem with asylum seekers or immigrants if they INTEGRATE and CONTRIBUTE. If they upset the harmony in the country and sponge off benefits they can sod off IMO.
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The overwhelming majority of 'immigrants' and their descendants have done just that. Or are you claiming that the majority of the 3.6 million people in this country who now live here but were born outside the EU are 'spongers'?
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Done what, integrated or sponged? Immigrants from Eastern europe 1940s-50s worked hard for the country, as did later immigrants from the Commonwealth eg Asia, Africa, Caribbean. Same can be said for the Turkish "Gastarbeiters" who helped rebuild Germany after WWII.
Immigration is not a problem, it's the people that abuse the immigration and benefit system I have a problem with.
I'm not anti-immigration and I'm not racist. I just think people should be fair and treat others as equals with the right to their opinion.
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13-01-2005, 14:30
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Or that a Scot living in London should not be allowed to wear a kilt in Oxford Street on St Andrew's Day?
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Personally, I don't think they should be allowed to wear kilts. Ever. A sudden gust of wind and it could scar me for life 
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13-01-2005, 14:33
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Personally, I don't think they should be allowed to wear kilts. Ever. A sudden gust of wind and it could scar me for life |
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slightly different. Look in places like Oldham, Burnley, etc, some parts they've even reflected the ethnic mix by having signs in Urdu. In some parts of England you can't fly the St Georges flag without being told to take it down because it's either "racist" or "inciting racial hatred". I'm not against people flying flags, it's slightly different to alienating the "natives" by demanding their lifestyle, laws, customs are changed. Slightly different to wearing a football shirt, kilt or waving a flag.
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Agree and well put. 
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Personally, I don't think they should be allowed to wear kilts. Ever. A sudden gust of wind and it could scar me for life |
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