*ALL* ntl Cap Discussion Here Please.

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by enjoymarcus

I download about 10 gigs a day, and this will go upto 20 gigs when my connection is doubled

Just a reminded though it's been done to death, when you order the upgrade you are agreeing to a transfer limit of 40GB a month. This isn't a guideline it's a fixed transfer allowance.

[th'engineer]

Originally Posted by Ignition

Is ok, but UKOnline are using exchanges that were unbundled by Easynet to supply business customers already, not for residential customers.

I imagine NTL won't worry too much unless this starts to impact on the bottom line, this being the main concern for the company.

Just two little questions.
1.How do AOL customers come out of this the ones on the network are they capped.

2.What happens with the new NTL ADSL service are they capped.

As both are advertised as un capped

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by th'engineer

Just two little questions.
1.How do AOL customers come out of this the ones on the network are they capped.

2.What happens with the new NTL ADSL service are they capped.

As both are advertised as un capped

AOL are affected no more than Wanadoo, etc, are affected by BTBroadband capping customers. Have to remind you that the relationship with AOL is the same as the relationship between Pipex, PlusNet etc to BT Wholesale. I'm pretty sure AOL pay their way.

The ntl ADSL service is not described as uncapped: https://secure.ntlfreedom.com/broadband_512k.aspx see key features bottom right and the panel on the left. Pretty clear I hope!

Originally Posted by enjoymarcus

LOL, whats next? Capping us on how much TV we are allowed to watch in a day?

I download about 10 gigs a day, and this will go upto 20 gigs when my connection is doubled, i have never had a letter or email...

I hope i am not on the same UBR as you

[Chrysalis]

I am just curious how ukonline can offer 500gig a month 8mbit for £3 a month more then what ntl charge for 3mbit 40 gig a month, telewest offer unmetered on the same type of network as ntl and we don't see their users complaining of poor performance, this in my opinion throws the argument uncapped=poor performance out of the window.

[Earwig]

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

I am just curious how ukonline can offer 500gig a month 8mbit for £3 a month more then what ntl charge for 3mbit 40 gig a month, telewest offer unmetered on the same type of network as ntl and we don't see their users complaining of poor performance, this in my opinion throws the argument uncapped=poor performance out of the window.

From what I can see there will always be an uncapped service available....

I have just found out that I may be able to get a 2MB connection on ADSL now and can get many uncapped services using it.
I will however stay with NTL and go to 3MB but as soon as they start asking about my download habits I will move on.

The way I see it is yes I download alot but with a faster connection you can download that amount at twice the speed so you would saturate the network/ubr or whatever for half the amount of time.......
I suppose the problem comes when you can download at twice the speed so you download twice as much, Hehehe....

But I think I would rather have a slower speed and no cap than a faster speed which I cannot use to it's full potential.
Instead of doing a 3MB capped, why not a 2MB uncapped or 2.5?? Or why not pay another £5P/m to get uncapped etc.....? Just adding this option would cater for a whole load more people!!!

Do not forget Telewest have a much smaller area than NTL though and so will find it easier to offer an uncapped service.

I just wonder what will happen when the 2 companies become 1?? Will NTL follow Telewest or vice versa?? Or will they stay as they are with differing services dependant on area but operate under the same name??


EDIT: The offer for ukonline is also capped at 4GB per day which is 112GB P/m and not 500GB. Would be nice if it was though eh??

[enjoymarcus]

Originally Posted by Bill C

I hope i am not on the same UBR as you

Well i live in Warrington, so you might be out of luck, me and my mates download a hell of alot of stuff, and we all live close to each other.

Originally Posted by enjoymarcus

Well i live in Warrington, so you might be out of luck, me and my mates download a hell of alot of stuff, and we all live close to each other.

Will have to check the ubr stats then wont I

[Ignition]

Originally Posted by Earwig

EDIT: The offer for ukonline is also capped at 4GB per day which is 112GB P/m and not 500GB. Would be nice if it was though eh??

Nope it's 500GB/month, was briefly 4GB/day then was increased to current level - see http://www.ukonline.co.uk for more information.

[Earwig]

Originally Posted by Ignition

Nope it's 500GB/month, was briefly 4GB/day then was increased to current level - see http://www.ukonline.co.uk for more information.

OMG!!!!

That is 80GB more than I currently have...Hehehe.

When I first saw it at 4GB I thought it was generous but 500GB?? Mmmm Hope I can get something like that soon in my area.....Please ignition...tell me I will??

[Chrysalis]

coming to my area in may , until that time ntl are on probation for me if I am satisfied I will stay where I am otherwise will goto ukonline.

[ian@huth]

I know a dial-up ISP that doesn't mind if you download up to 500 Gb a day, just shout if you want to know more. Think about it!

[Rone]

Having got Cable and adsl in my house, i'm sticking with ntl until they tell me that one month i had too much.
I dont want to have to waste time monitoring my lads, or myself for that fact. Means the rest of the package going to, but then why should i be loyal to someone who is looking over my shoulder 24\7.
Must admit 8 meg adsl sounds tempting, but lets give ntl the benefit of the doubt until all this is definite.

[ian@huth]

Originally Posted by Rone

Having got Cable and adsl in my house, i'm sticking with ntl until they tell me that one month i had too much.
I dont want to have to waste time monitoring my lads, or myself for that fact. Means the rest of the package going to, but then why should i be loyal to someone who is looking over my shoulder 24\7.
Must admit 8 meg adsl sounds tempting, but lets give ntl the benefit of the doubt until all this is definite.

8 Mb ADSL does sound tempting as does uncapped broadband but think about it. You are only able to get 8Mb if you live close to the exchange and it is only up to 8Mb, not a guaranteed 8Mb. If all the heavy users move from capped services to uncapped fast services then the chances are that you may get far less than the expected speed and maybe little more than dial-up speed. If you read through these forums and others you will notice that if customers are not getting full speed all the time then they say there is a problem. Cheap broadband, being a contended service, relies on customer usage not being heavy 24/7 usage and sooner rather than later some ISPs will suffer the consequences of attracting all those heavy users.

[mcmanic]

Originally Posted by Ignition

Just a reminded though it's been done to death, when you order the upgrade you are agreeing to a transfer limit of 40GB a month. This isn't a guideline it's a fixed transfer allowance.

just a reminder - no-one knows yet!, It does not say anywhere what will happen if you go over your monthly allowance depending on service your subscribed too when it comes into effect - just as with current 1gig a day guidelines contracts, so at present i would say its a guideline.

the moment they cap and its enfoced strictly i'll be off to AOL uncapped using the NTL service and going sky , this is what bugs me about NTL suggested capping their own users but allowing other services that use the NTL inferstructure unlimited use - bit of a kick in the teeth for loyal NTL users like me who have been with them since day1. I never signed for unlimted all those years ago, so don't intend to abide by new rules just to suit them