Why would UK want join the EU

I wasnt aware Cornwall was a country.

[jem]

Originally Posted by Paul

I wasnt aware Cornwall was a country.

Well it was once, but, define a ‘country’. What does that mean?

Originally Posted by jem

Well it was once, but, define a ‘country’. What does that mean?

Nope, not playing your game. Its not a Country.

Originally Posted by jem

And that is a perfectly valid point, but consider this.

Imagine you are a Cornishman*, would you also say that ‘the cost of being part of the UK is surrender of swathes of powers in social and market regulation policy to a council of ministers and a parliament (in Westminster) over which no Cornish electorate can ever exercise control. It is undemocratic by design.’

Where would you draw the line?

The whole point of any sort of community is, yes, you do lose a degree of individual control, but the overall benefits, to you, outweigh that.

I’ve said it before, and I think it merits repeating; ‘leave’ did not win the 2016 referendum - ‘remain’ lost it. They ran a really negative campaign which never, ever works, don't emphasise the damage that leaving will do but rather the advantages that membership brings.

* other counties, boroughs, districts, parishes, villages are available.

You draw the line around the boundaries of the demos, that is, the unified body of people whose outlooks and interests and heritage are similar and distinct enough that they form a natural, distinct democratic unit.

Regulation for its own sake is fundamentally un-British, yet that is a driving force in the euro-parliament. Government initiative led by the civil service is not British, it is a thing the French bequeathed to the European Commission.

Because there is no common European demos, it is impossible for single pan-European parties to emerge, which could control the parliament, and stand for election on common manifestos that could adequately address the differing priorities of electorates across the 27 (formerly 28) states. Because they are different electorates, and always will be. The Strasbourg gravy train gives the whole circus a veneer of democracy but it is, and always had been, a technocratic system.

The feudal systems that absorbed Cornwall and Wales into England simply don’t exist any more. Were it to be attempted today it would rightly be called ‘Empire’. And preventing pan-European empires was, ostensibly, one of the main reasons for creating the European Coal and Steel Community in the first place.

[Taf]

Labour's plans to bring in PR elections will make people think they have local control, but it will still be overruled by the Party Line in Westminster.

PR in Wales, rushed in by Labour for the recent Arsembly election, saw them massively ousted, but they thought they would just rule in a Left Wing coalition. How wrong they were.

[Itshim]

BBC reports Smokey bacon crisps may be in danger , under new EU rules

Good job we're not in the EU then, not that I actually like Smokey Bacon crisps.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Paul

Good job we're not in the EU then, not that I actually like Smokey Bacon crisps.

The deal on food would trigger it , if passed by them. GB would have to go along with them , if passed

Originally Posted by Itshim

BBC reports Smokey bacon crisps may be in danger , under new EU rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm1dwwqrr1kvo

Now, the flavour name itself has been called into question by a separate EU attempt to restrict how descriptions of meat are used to market food.

Under rules adopted this summer, the EU plans to restrict the use of 31 terms, including bacon, drumstick and steak, to products that contain meat, claiming consumers could be confused by plant-based alternatives using the same names.

The European snack industry is seeking clarity on how the rules, which will also cover terms such as pork, chicken and beef, would apply to meat-flavoured crisps, including those flavoured without the use of any meat extracts.

The UK government has said it expects the new regulations to be in scope of its proposed food standards deal.

This means they would also apply to companies marketing their products in Britain, which is among the biggest consumers of crisps in Europe, according to analysts Euromonitor.

It has raised the prospect that crisps with names such as smoky bacon and roast chicken could have to be relabelled to be sold in British shops, although much remains unclear about how the rules will apply in practice.

The new EU rules, which will not come into force until after August 2029, will allow the European Commission to create exemptions for meaty names with an established long-term use to describe other types of food product.

[Itshim]

Originally Posted by Hugh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cm1dwwqrr1kvo

But will they difference, between could and will .must add I don't really care