Andy Burnham’s chronicles

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Has his plans to possibly scrap council tax and stamp duty in favour of a tax on property or land @ 0.48% of value.

I do not see how this works for anyone. Stamp duty lost has to be made up so renters who do not own will have to be paying towards the loss and buyers who have already paid stamp duty will essentially be paying it again over and over


https://www.express.co.uk/news/polit...tax-new-charge

Most people will pay less overall. Renters won't be liable to pay anything, it will be the landlords responsibility, so I assume it will be like the General Rates was and will be included/reflected in the rent.

So for this to work, every property would have to be valued [again] every year ?

Personally, 0.48% of my (supposedly) current house value would be quite a reduction in tax.

... and who knows their "Land value".


---------- Post added at 18:19 ---------- Previous post was at 18:17 ----------

Another article on the same site suggests otherwise anyway.

No 10 has denied the Government was considering replacing council tax and stamp duty with a tax based on property or land values. Downing Street said suggestions the Prime Minister is actively considering scrapping council tax or stamp duty are "not true".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2233054/

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

So for this to work, every property would have to be valued [again] every year ?

Personally, 0.48% of my (supposedly) current house value would be quite a reduction in tax.

... and who knows their "Land value".


---------- Post added at 18:19 ---------- Previous post was at 18:17 ----------

Another article on the same site suggests otherwise anyway.



https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2233054/

The idea is that each property is automatically revalued by using software, be it up or down, annually.

Interesting that it's been claimed that the PM isn't considering this after all.

[papa smurf]

if they are denying it then they are plotting it

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

if they are denying it then they are plotting it

Lets have a fact here . . they can't really do a successful U-Turn on it until they've almost decided to do it

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Paul

Another article on the same site suggests otherwise anyway.

Quote:
No 10 has denied the Government was considering replacing council tax and stamp duty with a tax based on property or land values. Downing Street said suggestions the Prime Minister is actively considering scrapping council tax or stamp duty are "not true".

https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/2233054/

Don’t be complacent. It’s not true because they are plotting to do both!

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Don’t be complacent. It’s not true because they are plotting to do both!

You're not involved in Project Fear are you OB?

I think Andy is absolutely super , a modern day Robin Hood, takes from the South and gives to the North. About time for some proper 'levelling up' Intergenerational inequality next...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Mr K

You're not involved in Project Fear are you OB?

I think he's afraid of Reform's vote continuing to slide, Farage looking a by-election muppett and Reform disintegrating when the investigations conclude. And Labour having someone politically competent as PM.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I think he's afraid of Reform's vote continuing to slide, Farage looking a by-election muppett and Reform disintegrating when the investigations conclude. And Labour having someone politically competent as PM.

He's been in office a week and he's already your hero, enjoy the ride

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Carth

He's been in office a week and he's already your hero, enjoy the ride

I described him as politically competent, not my hero.

He's certainly making the 'look-at-the-polls, Five Homes Farage for PM' brigade somewhat quieter, which is no bad thing.

[Carth]

They're all spivs and shysters, I have no affiliation to any of them.

This means I can either cheer them on or spit at them, depending how they perform . . or not

They've denied the council tax reforms, as posted, but it was unlikely to happen anyway. It would amount, on average, to a huge tax hike on London and southern England, with a tax cut for the north. Guess where a load of Labour MPs have seats?

Besides. This would only work if you removed social care from councils and funded it nationally. Councils are in charge of social care provision, and that's where the vast majority of your council tax goes. Are your bins being collected less frequently despite council tax increasing? Social care costs.

You wouldn't be able to lopside council tax so drastically without redistributing the increase in income in the south to make up for the drop in the north. Which probably means radically overhauling how it all works in the first place.

Originally Posted by Carth

They're all spivs and shysters, I have no affiliation to any of them.

This means I can either cheer them on or spit at them, depending how they perform . . or not

And yet, Farage and Reform are noticeably absent from your spit and/or negative mentions…

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And yet, Farage and Reform are noticeably absent from your spit and/or negative mentions…

you're so obsessed with them no one else has to bother

Originally Posted by papa smurf

you're so obsessed with them no one else has to bother