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Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

Indeed, back to the topic please.
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Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

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It’s worth seeking out the comments of famous gay vicar Richard Coles, who has a level of maturity that permitted him to do precisely this.
Yes, i've read what he said and the prayer he said for her.

Ann really loved her cat and many were concerned about what had happened to him, so her management have put out a statement to say that he was quickly removed from the scene and is being well looked after whilst her family decide what to do long term.

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It’s worth seeking out the comments of famous gay vicar Richard Coles, who has a level of maturity that permitted him to do precisely this.
Nuanced, rather than black and white…

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Prayers offered for the soul of Ann Widdecombe who I knew a bit, both as an adversary and as an inconveniently congenial acquaintance.

I have never felt quite so drawn to someone personally and repulsed politicially simultaneously. It happens not infrequently now but she was the first.

I would like to say this all works out in the end, and it does in eternity. In this life it is hard to see.

But the old order has passed away.

Heavenly Father
You have called your servant Ann
out of this world;
release her from the bonds of sin,
and welcome her into your presence,
so that she may enjoy eternal light and peace
and be raised up in glory
And dance with all your saints.
We ask this through Christ our Lord.
Amen.
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Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

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Yes, i've read what he said and the prayer he said for her.

Ann really loved her cat and many were concerned about what had happened to him, so her management have put out a statement to say that he was quickly removed from the scene and is being well looked after whilst her family decide what to do long term.

she may have a will that provides for the cat in the event of her demise
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Yes, i've read what he said and the prayer he said for her.

Ann really loved her cat and many were concerned about what had happened to him, so her management have put out a statement to say that he was quickly removed from the scene and is being well looked after whilst her family decide what to do long term.
They should show the cat her body, animals understand death, if it doesn't see her then the cat will think she has abandoned it

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They should show the cat her body, animals understand death, if it doesn't see her then the cat will think she has abandoned it



Lovely words from a decent man
They did say that Aloycius 'was removed from the scene', so I think he must have been there when she was attacked (unless he came in when the carer or somebody opened the door and found out what had happened). I agree with you that animals understand death and that it's best to show them the body so that they can process this.

He is a good man, I have a lot of time for the Rev Richard Coles.

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The Aberdeen University worker who made inappropriate comments about the death of Ann Widdecombe has now been arrested & charged. This is what happens when the luxury of free speech that we are privileged to enjoy is abused.

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Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

No it's not. There's no need to entice malice.
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Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

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They did say that the cat 'was removed from the scene', so I think he must have been there when she was attacked (unless he came in when the carer or somebody opened the door and found out what had happened). I agree with you that animals understand death and that it's best to show them the body so that they can process this.

He is a good man, I have a lot of time for the Rev Richard Coles.

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The Aberdeen University worker who made inappropriate comments about the death of Ann Widdecombe has now been arrested & charged. This is what happens when the luxury of free speech that we are privileged to enjoy is abused.
Free speech is not a luxury or a privilege. It is a basic right, which we accept is legally qualified for the good order of wider society.

Be careful what you categorise as luxuries Richard. Those are the things the state can most easily argue cannot be afforded and should be removed.
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Re: Ann Widdecombe has died, murder suspected

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Free speech is not a luxury or a privilege. It is a basic right, which we accept is legally qualified for the good order of wider society.

Be careful what you categorise as luxuries Richard. Those are the things the state can most easily argue cannot be afforded and should be removed.
I meant when comparing the UK to some other countries that don't enjoy our level of free speech.
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