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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Damien
Immigration, including small boats, is down by quite a bit now? Not really sure Burnham will be able to do much more.
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Certainly down a massive amount since the time Jenrick and Braverman were in charge of it.
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Yesterday, 19:17
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Did Starmer fail on immigration? YES. Did Starmer fail on energy policy? YES. Did Trump say that? YES. Words of value? YES.
Words by an otherwise bad egg? YES.
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Could you clarify how Starmer failed in immigration, please, as the figures appear to show otherwise…
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Yesterday, 20:06
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Could you clarify how Starmer failed in immigration, please, as the figures appear to show otherwise…
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Tuts, you can prove anything with figures, especially if there's a graph attached, doesn't beat a gut feeling, especially if its got a good dose of bias on the side
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Yesterday, 20:23
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
Could you clarify how Starmer failed in immigration, please, as the figures appear to show otherwise…
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Boats, man. Boats - with military age likely/potential enemies of a conflicting culture.
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Yesterday, 20:38
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Boats, man. Boats - with military age likely/potential enemies of a conflicting culture.
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So are you saying it was better under Laurel & Hardy?(Jenrick and Braverman).
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Yesterday, 21:02
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
So are you saying it was better under Laurel & Hardy?(Jenrick and Braverman).
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It's not better under anybody.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
So are you saying it was better under Laurel & Hardy?(Jenrick and Braverman).
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Why pivot on that nonsense? The Rwanda flight was a week away but no, "smash the gangs, smash the gangs" was Starmer's mantra.
Those stashed guns in the Iranian Embassy basement are waiting.
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Yesterday, 21:20
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Comedy move by Sir Keir to gift Andy a £4.7bn hole in the transfer of our wealth to the military industrial complex.
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Yesterday, 21:23
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by jfman
Comedy move by Sir Keir to gift Andy a £4.7bn hole in the transfer of our wealth to the military industrial complex.
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Yes, an expensive knife in the back!
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by jfman
Comedy move by Sir Keir to gift Andy a £4.7bn hole in the transfer of our wealth to the military industrial complex.
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The comedy lies in the fact that the hole is at least £5 billion too small. I don’t know if you noticed but the second Cold War has been on for a good few years now, and we’re woefully ill-equipped.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Boats, man. Boats - with military age likely/potential enemies of a conflicting culture.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/...rrer=deep-link
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Returns and deportations from the UK, April 2025 to March 2026
39,007 up 7% over 12 months
Home Office data, as of 21 May 2026
Arrivals by small boat, 1 January 2026 to 25 June 2026
11,638 down 37% same period 2025
Home Office data, as of 26 June 2026
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Chris
The comedy lies in the fact that the hole is at least £5 billion too small. I don’t know if you noticed but the second Cold War has been on for a good few years now, and we’re woefully ill-equipped.
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Even if the second Cold War is happening - which I doubt - throwing billions at the MoD for more project managers to procure more equipment, inadequate before it even reaches the field, designed for warfare 30 years ago, isn’t the answer.
NATO combined military spending is over $1.5 trillion. Eclipsing that of China, Russia, Iran and North Korea combined. Another £5bn here or there is won’t touch the sides of the underlying problem. The military industrial complex has no incentive to drive efficiencies if everyone just writes it a blank cheque.
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Today, 08:35
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Chris
The comedy lies in the fact that the hole is at least £5 billion too small. I don’t know if you noticed but the second Cold War has been on for a good few years now, and we’re woefully ill-equipped.
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yea but shafting andy burnham is the right thing to do
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by papa smurf
yea but shafting andy burnham is the right thing to do
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Why? A bit petty surely?
---------- Post added at 11:42 ---------- Previous post was at 11:37 ----------
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Originally Posted by Sephiroth
Why pivot on that nonsense? The Rwanda flight was a week away but no, "smash the gangs, smash the gangs" was Starmer's mantra.
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The Rwanda idea was never going to work, it was a last minute thing designed to win votes.
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Today, 10:52
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Why? A bit petty surely?
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The Rwanda idea was never going to work, it was a last minute thing designed to win votes.
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Like “smash the gangs” was gonna work? At least see how the Rwanda removal would work.
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