Andy Burnham’s chronicles

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Carth

Oh come on Papa, that's just plain ridiculous. I know the price of petrol is (allegedly) on the way down, but it's still costly. I'd suggest half a gallon at most, which should be enough to get them within sight of the French coastguard . . . who will then supply them with 3 liters of petrol and point them our way.

people do say i am overly generous

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

Oh come on Papa, that's just plain ridiculous. I know the price of petrol is (allegedly) on the way down, but it's still costly. I'd suggest half a gallon at most, which should be enough to get them within sight of the French coastguard . . . who will then supply them with 3 liters of petrol and point them our way.

This ping-pong would be an excellent idea. As you may recall. I'm in favour of an international incident whereby we simply push the boats back toward France. This needs to be brought to a head via a declaration of national emergency. The £4+ billion spent on this nonsense annually would go a long way (in the right hands) to reviving the economy.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

"Reindustrialise": Yes

"No 10 North": Ridiculous. Get growth first then tinker.

"More devolution": Not before there is a nationally consulted and funded plan. At this stage - gollox.

"Government is broken": No shit.

Devolution is needed. BoJo spent a whopping £96m on regenerating Hartlepool. The voters there ended up voting Remain as they felt the money being spent was not as they wished.

No 10 North. Get growth first? We've struggled with getting growth to date so no harm in trying other ideas like this to get it. Manchester is a success story and it's daft not to aspire to replicate its success elsewwhere.

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

This ping-pong would be an excellent idea. As you may recall. I'm in favour of an international incident whereby we simply push the boats back toward France. This needs to be brought to a head via a declaration of national emergency. The £4+ billion spent on this nonsense annually would go a long way (in the right hands) to reviving the economy.

If the solution is to adopt one of Trump's undemocratic ways of working, you're asking the wrong question.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Devolution is needed. BoJo spent a whopping £96m on regenerating Hartlepool. The voters there ended up voting Remain as they felt the money being spent was not as they wished.

No 10 North. Get growth first? We've struggled with getting growth to date so no harm in trying other ideas like this to get it. Manchester is a success story and it's daft not to aspire to replicate its success elsewwhere.

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If the solution is to adopt one of Trump's undemocratic ways of working, you're asking the wrong question.

Devolution is needed. BoJo spent a whopping £96m on regenerating Hartlepool. The voters there ended up voting Remain as they felt the money being spent was not as they wished.

No 10 North. Get growth first? We've struggled with getting growth to date so no harm in trying other ideas like this to get it. Manchester is a success story and it's daft not to aspire to replicate its success elsewhere.

More devolution needs thinking through and would take a couple of years to implement and a lot of government resource that would be etter dire4xcted to other projects.

The pros, cons, legals, protection from runaway taxation, etc, all need to carefully thought through and debated with the public. There also need to be cultural constraints so that we don't get local Islamic republics in the UK.

No 10 North is extreme gimmicky gollox at this point in time. Manchester city growth may well have outstripped the UK as a whole. But that's not macro-economy, and sigma local economies will not make primary steel, defence procurements, grant North Sea drilling licences and so on.

Burnham needs to engage a clear thinker (that's me) to guide the progression of his initiatives.