Starmer’s chronicles

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Hugh

If the State Pension is your only income, you should be entitled to Pension Credit and Council Tax reduction…

Wife still works (part time) so no 'extra' benefits available, unlike the scroungers and unmarried mothers of 3.

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Dingbat

And, the vast majority of pensioners have paid into NI throughout their working lives. I’m sure you’ll change your tune when you retire.

I repeat, their income is STILL higher, regardless of pensions, state or otherwise. The whole principle of pensions is to REPLACE working income, not supplement it. They HAVEN'T retired.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by nomadking

The point being that if you get those extras, UC claimants CAN afford those things.
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Yes but had you taken my post in context to previous post to which I was following up you would see I was on about most people wanting to work and therefore you reply to the UC things falls under the prevue of without breaking the law because anyone not legitimately sick would be breaking the law claiming the extras. Context means everything

[Carth]

Originally Posted by nomadking

I repeat, their income is STILL higher, regardless of pensions, state or otherwise. The whole principle of pensions is to REPLACE working income, not supplement it. They HAVEN'T retired.

Are you suggesting I should be getting the (roughly) £340 pw like before I retired?

[peanut]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Yes but they are not as easy to get as you think. Just ask Peanut I think it was

I have to say living with severe illness or disability (or both), no amount of money matters much. As it stands I might have a year or 2 left yet it's still a worry that things could change or the goalposts moved further away.

If PIP becomes means tested, then do those expect to go through what they do and and then deal with the loss of any kind of financial independence, dignity or self worth having to rely on your partner to pay for everything? I certainly wouldn't be able to live with myself. I'm already a burden to my wife. (Though she doesn't see it that way but I do).

Too many people get annoyed because someone gets something for nothing because they pay taxes and think it must be a wonderful life living on benefits. Like saying you get a free car, well in fact you don't. It tends to cost you around £320 a month for that car.

I look at those that have kids to get more money and think they're just sad and they are the ones that are missing out of living a life and I pity the kids as well. That's not something to envy that's for certain.

I qualify for PIP and ESA (contribution based). Because my wife works, that is all I can claim. So we pay full rent, Council tax etc etc No reductions of any kind. I don't qualify for water rate reduction even though I use more water for my illness. If my wife quits working and becomes my carer, then we'd probably get the lot. But that's no life if it becomes a 'career choice'.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by peanut

I have to say living with severe illness or disability (or both), no amount of money matters much. As it stands I might have a year or 2 left yet it's still a worry that things could change or the goalposts moved further away.

If PIP becomes means tested, then do those expect to go through what they do and and then deal with the loss of any kind of financial independence, dignity or self worth having to rely on your partner to pay for everything? I certainly wouldn't be able to live with myself. I'm already a burden to my wife. (Though she doesn't see it that way but I do).

Too many people get annoyed because someone gets something for nothing because they pay taxes and think it must be a wonderful life living on benefits. Like saying you get a free car, well in fact you don't. It tends to cost you around £320 a month for that car.

I look at those that have kids to get more money and think they're just sad and they are the ones that are missing out of living a life and I pity the kids as well. That's not something to envy that's for certain.

I qualify for PIP and ESA (contribution based). Because my wife works, that is all I can claim. So we pay full rent, Council tax etc etc No reductions of any kind. I don't qualify for water rate reduction even though I use more water for my illness. If my wife quits working and becomes my carer, then we'd probably get the lot. But that's no life if it becomes a 'career choice'.

Thanks for your input mate I know it was hard and caused stress when you claimed . What we see with opinions like Nomad are exactly what those in power want people to think. There was someone who had a lot of stress with their twin daughters I think it was too or that might have been the switch to UC.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by thenry

It's my intellectual levels. You might get dizzy at these heights.

What, the cat's arse?

[thenry]

I can only dream of mooning people like they do

[nomadking]

Originally Posted by Carth

Are you suggesting I should be getting the (roughly) £340 pw like before I retired?

Nowadays, how many people retire when reaching state pension age? In the past it was pretty automatic. The purpose of pensions was to have an income once you left your job and retired.
The issue is whether the state pension should be means tested. After all paying NI, gives entitlement to unemployment benefits which end up being means tested.

[Carth]

Perhaps if they went ahead and means tested the state pension there may be pensioners given more to hit the target . . works both ways if the circumstances are right (or wrong).

Can we means test child benefit too

Originally Posted by Carth

Perhaps if they went ahead and means tested the state pension there may be pensioners given more to hit the target . . works both ways if the circumstances are right (or wrong).

Can we means test child benefit too

https://www.gov.uk/child-benefit-tax-charge

From tax year 2024 to 2025 onwards

If you or your partner earn more than £60,000 a year, you’ll have to pay some of your Child Benefit back. If you or your partner earn £80,000 or more, you’ll have to pay all of it back.

You’ll pay back 1% of your Child Benefit for every £200 you earn over the threshold.

Example

Your adjusted net income is £67,600 in tax year 2024 to 2025. This is £7,600 over the £60,000 threshold. As 7,600 divided by 200 is 38, you’ll pay back 38% of your Child Benefit.

[Carth]

£60k a year, Gov. taking the piss again