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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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One small correction - "some of them defected Tories"
"some" doing very heavy lifting there… 
Farage - ex-Tory member for 14 years
Tice - ex-Tory member and donor
David Bull - ex-Tory member and Candidate
Jenrick - we all know his history
Braverman - as Jenrick
Lee Anderson - as Jenrick, only earlier
Yusuf - ex-Tory member |
And all of them disillusioned by a party in hock to the establishment and prevented from being too bold by the left wing of the party.
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17-06-2026, 19:53
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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And all of them disillusioned by a party in hock to the establishment and prevented from being too bold by the left wing of the party.
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Restore are calling Reform "centrist"…
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17-06-2026, 19:56
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Manners maketh the man…
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Restore are calling Reform "centrist"…
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Restore Britain is too far Right to appeal to most of the electorate. Lowe is not a pleasant character at all.
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17-06-2026, 20:00
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Restore Britain is too far Right to appeal to most of the electorate. Lowe is not a pleasant character at all.
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Kemi Badenoch said
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‘Rupert Lowe turns up for work; Nigel Farage doesn’t’
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Yesterday, 09:00
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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Yesterday, 09:29
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
No news is good news . . . . right?
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Yesterday, 09:40
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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No news is good news . . . . right? |
i think it's a representation of his thought process
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Yesterday, 10:22
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
The Makerfield result show that Reform UK has peaked under opresent political circumstances.
However, Labour won’t be able to turn things round (imo) because Burnham hasn’t explained how he will obtain significant economic growth.
So, after a short honeymoon and some deft work by Farage, I reckon Reform UK will rise again. Farage should consult me! Maybe OB can arrange that!
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Sometimes “wrong”. What goes on behind closed doors can be bad news.
Anyway, it’s Labour per se that’s bad news. Burnham is likely no more than a polished turd.
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
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[COLOR="Blue"]The Makerfield result show that Reform UK has peaked under opresent political circumstances.
However, Labour won’t be able to turn things round (imo) because Burnham hasn’t explained how he will obtain significant economic growth.
So, after a short honeymoon and some deft work by Farage, I reckon Reform UK will rise again. Farage should consult me! Maybe OB can arrange that!
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I am not sure how Reform breaks out of the 30%(ish) ceiling they seem to have. Farage and Reform are very divisive, and every time they double down on their base, they alienate everyone else. They seem to have hit a cap on Tory voters they can peel away, and the broader left-wing vote seems to be self-organising to vote against Reform by coalescing around whichever candidate is more likely to win.
Restore seems to be a bit of a paper tiger. Still, they're clearly also scaring Reform into doubling down on populist nativism, which again alienates anyone else they hope to reach.
How do they square that circle? It's the same problem the Greens will have if they ever do pose a serious threat to Labour, given their extreme naivety on foreign affairs (at best!) and more insane positions alienate anyone beyond a hard core base.
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Yesterday, 17:45
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Possibly so.
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Yesterday, 22:40
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Reform seems to have hit a brick wall. It's done well in local government elections but has failed to win the last three by-elections. It still remains dependent on Farage's personality which is a risk particularly given the investigation into his undisclosed £5m gift.
Farage's own popularity has decreased (65% have an unfavourable opinion of him v 59% a year ago) and the Party's appeal to women has inevitably suffered after poor vetting of its Makerfield candidate let in someone who had previously proclaimed himself a sexist.
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Yesterday, 23:25
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Re: Reform UK's chronicles
Failed to win the last four by-elections…
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