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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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The Sage iPhone (at release date) had a monthly subscription of either £119 or £149 per month, and doesn't appear to be available now...
And if you look on the Sagemobiie UK website, the doesn't actually appear to be a way to buy one of their phones...
https://www.sagemobile.com/ |
Way out of the price range for most people then. Who would pay that amount a month for a child's basic phone...
https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...pounds-a-month
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04-06-2026, 14:43
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
wow lol
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The pared-back version of the top-selling handset, which will not allow internet searches, gaming or downloads of Instagram, TikTok, Snapchat and other social media, is being offered in the UK for £99 a month by a US company that wants children to “reconnect with real life, not just reduce screen time”.
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I can sell you a brick for £27 
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04-06-2026, 14:59
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by Hugh
The Sage iPhone (at release date) had a monthly subscription of either £119 or £149 per month, and doesn't appear to be available now...
And if you look on the Sagemobiie UK website, the doesn't actually appear to be a way to buy one of their phones...
https://www.sagemobile.com/ |
Yes, the website is completely devoid of any specifics as to how it managed to do this, or indeed exactly how it works. It appears to simply be an iPhone with certain apps removed from it, and access to the App Store restricted in some way. Which if you use the parental controls on iOS, you can do anyway. But perhaps the £119 per month is the acceptable cost for some parents to save a little time and effort!
I wonder what would happen if little Jimmy, factory resets the phone or restores it using DFU mode? I suspect it becomes a normal iPhone with all restrictions gone but still costing little Jimmy’s parents a small fortune each month.
But all academic, as you say, it appears to be impossible to purchase anyway now, assuming that it did ever exist and wasn’t just some vapourware product.
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wow lol
I can sell you a brick for £27 |
No, no, no, you’ll never be a tech-bro, with that attitude.
What you should say is 'I can sell you a £ 27monthly subscription for the brick.....'
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04-06-2026, 15:11
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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No, no, no, you’ll never be a tech-bro, with that attitude.
What you should say is 'I can sell you a £ 27monthly subscription for the brick.....'
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Gosh no, that would involve bank accounts and stuff. I'd sell them cash in hand sold as seen, in that dark alley round the back of the Co-op 
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04-06-2026, 17:11
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
Does the brick come in different colours, and size ?
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04-06-2026, 18:03
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Does the brick come in different colours, and size ?
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Oh yes, there's a choice of colours, sizes, and even a choice of textures. Some even have air holes for extra cooling.
Payment up front guarantees delivery at point of purchase, if you start haggling too much we aim to deliver it . . usually between 2am and 4am through your largest window 
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06-06-2026, 13:17
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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OK, fair enough, but the point I was making was that the ability to provide safe phones for children was technically possible.
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06-06-2026, 14:28
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
Lots of things are technically possible, finding people that actually want it is a stumbling block to making them
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06-06-2026, 14:46
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
OK, fair enough, but the point I was making was that the ability to provide safe phones for children was technically possible.
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Lots of things are technically possible, finding people that actually want it is a stumbling block to making them |
One also has to bear in mind the "Iron Triangle" of development - Accuracy, Speed, Cost; choose two out of three...
You can have it accurate and fast, but it won't be cheap
You can have it accurate and cheap, but it won't be fast
You can have it fast and cheap, but it won't be accurate
Also, as Carth said, is there an actual (profitable) market for these phones?
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Lots of things are technically possible, finding people that actually want it is a stumbling block to making them |
Yes, but if there's no demand for something like this, what's all the fuss about? The politicians and Richard seem to be obsessed with this.
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Yes, but if there's no demand for something like this, what's all the fuss about? The politicians and Richard seem to be obsessed with this.
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Once more we see you making ridiculous over the top remarks to try and support your standpoint. Being interested in something and finding it important are not the same as an obsession.
Paul is clearly interested in and has a knowledge of IT, Chris is clearly interested in and has knowledge of politicical issues. Are they 'obsessed' with these subjects to the point of them being harmful to them? No.
There is clearly a demand to stop people being scammed, for children to be driven to suicide, for paedophiles to be prevented from accessing children etc etc. Whether the Online Safety Act is the best way to achieve these aims or is working as well as it should in all these areas is what's being discussed.
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter
Once more we see you making ridiculous over the top remarks to try and support your standpoint. Being interested in something and finding it important are not the same as an obsession.
Paul is clearly interested in and has a knowledge of IT, Chris is clearly interested in and has knowledge of politicical issues. Are they 'obsessed' with these subjects to the point of them being harmful to them? No.
There is clearly a demand to stop people being scammed, for children to be driven to suicide, for paedophiles to be prevented from accessing children etc etc. Whether the Online Safety Act is the best way to achieve these aims or is working as well as it should in all these areas is what's being discussed.
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Richard, I should imagine most people on here want children protected. But what you are not getting is that the cack-handed way this government is going about it not only disadvantages adults as well, but it will be ineffective as kids will simply use VPNs instead.
What I am saying is that we need to find a more targeted method that actually works. The Online Safety Act is not the way to do it and creates a huge amount of work for the tech companies.
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
The only way to create a safe online environment where no harm comes to anybody, is to close the internet.
Then we can move forward to prevent physical bullying and abuse in schools, offices, building sites and the street by closing down life.
Who's with me?
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
Within the last hour or so, the PM has given Google & Apple three months to stop children seeing or sending explicit content. If they don't, legislation will be introduced to require it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5j43zp2rpt
Tory leader Kemi Badenoch says it's "not enough" to ban certain features and argues that social media "is not for children".
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Re: Online Safety Bill Etc
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Within the last hour or so, the PM has given Google & Apple three months to stop children seeing or sending explicit content. If they don't, legislation will be introduced to require it.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cr5j43zp2rpt
Tory leader Kemi Badenoch says it's "not enough" to ban certain features and argues that social media "is not for children". |
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