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I actually think Badenoch has struck the right balance on this, as much as I normally disagree with her on everything.

She is appealing for calm, in constract to Farage's pot-stirring, and asking for answers without exploting the situation. Calling for rage isn't helping. Even if I think he can't be directly held responsible for the scenes we saw in Southamption, it does show why politicans have to be careful with their language.

As for Reform, do they do any vetting? This candidate for the by-election seems to have no end of troubling tweets brought up. They've hamstrung themselves right out the gate.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Damien

I actually think Badenoch has struck the right balance on this, as much as I normally disagree with her on everything.

She is appealing for calm, in constract to Farage's pot-stirring, and asking for answers without exploting the situation. Calling for rage isn't helping. Even if I think he can't be directly held responsible for the scenes we saw in Southamption, it does show why politicans have to be careful with their language.

As for Reform, do they do any vetting? This candidate for the by-election seems to have no end of troubling tweets brought up. They've hamstrung themselves right out the gate.

i don't think most reform voters give a toss about what old social media posts are causing woke lefties to have a melt down


what sickened me was starmer inviting the nowak family to downing street in full public view,playing politics to enhance his profile

Originally Posted by papa smurf

i don't think most reform voters give a toss about what old social media posts are causing woke lefties to have a melt down

I know Reform voters don't, but Reform need to appeal to a wider electorate. Especially women. There is a natural cap on the number of people who'll appeal to with a candidate who has expressed anti-abortion, anti-Ukraine sentiments. It plays very well on Twitter. Not to much in real life.

[Carth]

In my personal life I can't remember many of the women I've known having the faintest interest in politics, it doesn't have the same 'gossip appeal' as Gladys at number 27 taking that young male lodger in, or the farcebook posts about todays bargains at Primark.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Having a prepared answer is not comparable to Farage's video.

Badenoch and Davey were respectful to the wishes of the deceased's parents. It is a shame Farage was not.

Never mind the Badenoch/Davey "tone". Farage is telling iot as it is and more of that is needed in Parliament.

[Carth]

I think after those latest local elections there were quite a few people telling stuff as it is . . whether those currently in power were listening is anyone's guess though

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Carth

I think after those latest local elections there were quite a few people telling stuff as it is . . whether those currently in power were listening is anyone's guess though

Doesn't need guessing. They know and shut it out for woke reasons.

Only Reform is calling the woke nonsense out properly. I want my party to do the same.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

Doesn't need guessing. They know and shut it out for woke reasons.

Only Reform is calling the woke nonsense out properly. I want my party to do the same.

Reform absolutely misrepresented what your Party's leader actually said. This is really gutter-level politics.

Speaking on yesterday’s Good Morning Britain, the Conservative leader set out her admirable approach: “I don’t want to hear about Black Lives Matter. I don’t want to hear about White Lives Matter. We all matter. Enough of this nonsense…”

Her comments were immediately used in an attack ad by Reform, taking her phrase “I don’t want to hear about White Lives Matter” and contrasting it with words she used in 2020: “Black lives do matter”. The intention is clear: look at this black woman, who doesn’t give a damn about whites and cares only about blacks.

As I say, I’ve been around the block a bit, but in all those decades I’ve never come across a distortion as wilful, clear and grotesque as this. Both phrases lifted by Reform are not so much taken out of context as handed entirely the opposite meaning.

https://spectator.com/article/zia-yu...s-a-hypocrite/

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Reform absolutely misrepresented what your Party's leader actually said. This is really gutter-level politics.


https://spectator.com/article/zia-yu...s-a-hypocrite/

Black lives matter would have been better clarifying the name for those who misrepresent for their own agenda or who are to thick to work it the name should actually mean black lives matter as well, not that their lives are more important, just that they matter too

[Sephiroth]

There was never a need in the UK for any sort of BLM movement. We are nothing like the USA other than a common language. The woke leftie establishment took up the BLM nonsense because it suited them to do so. All lives matter and that goes without needing to be said and the UK is much nearer to that ideal than the USA.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

There was never a need in the UK for any sort of BLM movement. We are nothing like the USA other than a common language. The woke leftie establishment took up the BLM nonsense because it suited them to do so. All lives matter and that goes without needing to be said and the UK is much nearer to that ideal than the USA.

Never said there was a need here and I actually agree and have said similar on this very forum