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[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And I look at what he's actually doing...


So he didn't take £5 million from a Thai-based cryptocurrency billionaire, then changed the the reason why he was given it, or declare it when he became an MP?


(and then hasn't held any press conferences or appeared on any media programmes since the news came out, to avoid having to answer questions on it?)

Has anything been announced by reform policy wise that'd make that 5 million look like money well spent by ihis benefactor...

[Carth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Has anything been announced by reform policy wise that'd make that 5 million look like money well spent by ihis benefactor...

You means like maybe . . oh . . a new set of saucepans, a couple of pens, a silver tankard, a George Foreman grill . . . and a campervan?

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

And I look at what he's actually doing...


So he didn't take £5 million from a Thai-based cryptocurrency billionaire, then changed the the reason why he was given it, or declare it when he became an MP?


(and then hasn't held any press conferences or appeared on any media programmes since the news came out, to avoid having to answer questions on it?)

Both reasons he gave were correct, and he’s not given any further press conferences simply because the local elections are over.

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Has anything been announced by reform policy wise that'd make that 5 million look like money well spent by ihis benefactor...

https://www.cityam.com/nigel-farage-...ey-revolution/

under Reform UK, there will be no caps on individual holdings of stablecoins. And we will go further. We will slash capital gains tax on cryptoassets such as Bitcoin from 24 per cent to 10 per cent. This will make Britain attractive fintech innovators and blockchain entrepreneurs...

...We will also create a Bitcoin digital reserve at the Bank of England

https://www.ft.com/content/a12fb65d-...9-7ee52e694dab

Nigel Farage has pitched himself as the British crypto sector’s saviour, saying “I am your champion”, as the Reform UK leader tries to emulate President Donald Trump in building election support from digital asset investors.

“When it comes to your industry, when it comes to growth in this industry, then I am your champion,” he told the conference on Monday. “We will effectively bring crypto in from the cold.”

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Carth

He does right not to 'appear' on any media programs that will (no matter what the subject of the show) relentlessly question him about it . . . and then twist his answers.

I don’t blame him. His recent video in which he expresses his concerns about the Novak murder is a good example. He was misquoted by Starmer in the Commons as inviting people to express ‘rage’ and by the BBC’s Newsnight misquoting him as saying ‘white rage’, when what he actually said was ‘cold rage’, the meaning of which has been lost on Farage’s ignorant detractors.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Has anything been announced by reform policy wise that'd make that 5 million look like money well spent by ihis benefactor...

Well, for starters their lack of support for Ukraine must be ging down well in some parts of the world.
https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news...k-county-hall/

[Dingbat]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don’t blame him. His recent video in which he expresses his concerns about the Novak murder is a good example. He was misquoted by Starmer in the Commons as inviting people to express ‘rage’ and by the BBC’s Newsnight misquoting him as saying ‘white rage’, when what he actually said was ‘cold rage’, the meaning of which has been lost on Farage’s ignorant detractors.

So what does ‘cold rage’ actually mean, then?

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Carth

You means like maybe . . oh . . a new set of saucepans, a couple of pens, a silver tankard, a George Foreman grill . . . and a campervan?

I was thinking more of crypto policy but yeah get distracted by those Scottish amateurs

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Well, for starters their lack of support for Ukraine must be ging down well in some parts of the world.
https://www.eveningnews24.co.uk/news...k-county-hall/

Typical Andrew; typical prejudice.

The Council merely want's to stick to British official flags. Nothing wrong with that.

By corollary to your pitch (which is pure hatred of Reform UK), is their failure to fly the Israeli flag, or the Palestinian flag a lack of support for their respective causes?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I don’t blame him. His recent video in which he expresses his concerns about the Novak murder is a good example. He was misquoted by Starmer in the Commons as inviting people to express ‘rage’ and by the BBC’s Newsnight misquoting him as saying ‘white rage’, when what he actually said was ‘cold rage’, the meaning of which has been lost on Farage’s ignorant detractors.

'Rage' and 'cold rage' are just abbreviations of what he said - 'pure cold rage'. Farage seemingly went against the wishes of the victim's parents by politicising the situation. It's a clever dogwhistle which he can deny by his clever use of language.

[Sephiroth]

If Farage is "playing political games". then so is Starmer. He was asked a question by Farage and then read his answer from a pre-prepared text. Starmer's "outrage" was as political as his accusation of the same against Farage - clearly trying to score points.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

If Farage is "playing political games". then so is Starmer. He was asked a question by Farage and then read his answer from a pre-prepared text. Starmer's "outrage" was as political as his accusation of the same against Farage - clearly trying to score points.

Having a prepared answer is not comparable to Farage's video.

Badenoch and Davey were respectful to the wishes of the deceased's parents. It is a shame Farage was not.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

'Rage' and 'cold rage' are just abbreviations of what he said - 'pure cold rage'. Farage seemingly went against the wishes of the victim's parents by politicising the situation. It's a clever dogwhistle which he can deny by his clever use of language.

It’s already political, because the police are not treating everyone equally and are even instructed not to. That isn’t equality.

Cold rage and pure cold rage - there’s not any appreciable difference between the two. Why are you making a distinction?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

It’s already political, because the police are not treating everyone equally and are even instructed not to.

Firstly, Farage's statement disrespected the parents' wishes by both politicising the murder and by sowing division.
Secondly, it is wise to wait for the results of the investigation before stating the police are not instructed to treat everyone equally.

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Firstly, Farage's statement disrespected the parents' wishes by both politicising the murder and by sowing division.
Secondly, it is wise to wait for the results of the investigation before stating the police are not instructed to treat everyone equally.

This is a political issue. Saying Farage somehow made it so contra the parents’ wishes is nonsense.

Nobody had any problem with the nakedly political act of calling for rage when George Floyd died in handcuffs. The double standards here are appalling. And, with respect for the boy’s parents, when an incident has such far-reaching ramifications as this one does, their right to shape the narrative is limited. In any case, his father (rightly) criticised the police, and management of police is, ultimately political.

As for ‘wait for the investigation’ - congratulations on your willingness to sing from the hymn sheet the British state constantly uses to kick things into the long grass. It is bad enough, if understandable, that we have had to wait 6 months to even discuss this openly because of its connection with an ongoing court case. Attempting to shut down further discussion while an inquiry is convened behind closed doors for many more months is risible.