Reform UK's chronicles

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I'm not sure they would take unsolicited advice from a loyal Conservative voter like you. But you could pass the baton to Old Boy who's defected to Reform.

I shall try. Kaczinski will be my port of call.

I'm less blinkered than OB.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

I shall try. Kaczinski will be my port of call.

I'm less blinkered than OB.

I’m not blinkered, but I admit to calling out nonsense if I think someone might be listening.

People have a lot to say against Reform UK, but most of it shows their complete lack of knowledge about what they stand for.

Listen to the smears, lies and put-downs if that makes your boat float, but you’ll only be kidding yourself.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I’m not blinkered, but I admit to calling out nonsense if I think someone might be listening.

People have a lot to say against Reform UK, but most of it shows their complete lack of knowledge about what they stand for.

Listen to the smears, lies and put-downs if that makes your boat float, but you’ll only be kidding yourself.

As you know, OB, I am a Farage fan and much of his top team. I'm not 100% impressed with some types that are Reform supporters.

So, I remain a Conservative and am particularly impressed with Kemi, who can't, single handed, restore her party's fortunes.

You, on the other hand, only defend/justify Reform UK = blinkers.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

As you know, OB, I am a Farage fan and much of his top team. I'm not 100% impressed with some types that are Reform supporters.

So, I remain a Conservative and am particularly impressed with Kemi, who can't, single handed, restore her party's fortunes.

You, on the other hand, only defend/justify Reform UK = blinkers.

Only? Where do you get that idea? I acknowledge completely that Kemi is a good leader of the Conservative Party, but I doubt that she will be able to take the party with her with the policy changes she wants to implement. The Conservatives remain split between their left and right wings, same as Labour.

[Sephiroth]

Some of the lefties here will be getting the popcorn out right now. So respect, my friend.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I’m not blinkered, but I admit to calling out nonsense if I think someone might be listening.

People have a lot to say against Reform UK, but most of it shows their complete lack of knowledge about what they stand for.

Listen to the smears, lies and put-downs if that makes your boat float, but you’ll only be kidding yourself.

They're not ”smears, lies" if the information is factually correct.

I see you're following the Trump/Farage playbook of calling anything that reflects adversely on the Party/candidate "fake news" and "mainstream media bias", which is hysterical considering Farage is a presenter and shareholder in GB News, which in itself is basically a Reform propaganda channel.

[1andrew1]

Reform's biggest issue is being squeezed between the Conservative Party and Restore Britain.

If you want a full-on populist party that promises to ban the burka, defund the BBC and introduce large-scale deportations then Restore Britain covers that territory. Farage opened a Pandora's box by offering impractical populist policies which he's now reigning back on but Rupert Lowe is not so constrained and enjoy's Musk's social media support.

If you want a right-wing party which has the most experience of governing and is safe to mention at dinner parties in the home counties then the Conservative Party has you covered here.

The three-way divisions on the right look sufficient to squeeze Reform and keep them out of power in the next general election. Farage's decision not to keep Rupert Lowe within the Reform UK tent could be his biggest strategic mistake.

[thenry]

Rage.

Knee jerk MP.

https://news.sky.com/story/archbisho...oblem-13421186

Can he run a country on knee jerk reactions?

Well thats new ;

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[thenry]

Opens fine here Boss

[Carth]

Opened fine for me too, although there's nothing special, it's just Sky news stirring the pot again . . hoping the mix of politics and religion will boost advertising revenues

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Hugh

They're not ”smears, lies" if the information is factually correct.

I see you're following the Trump/Farage playbook of calling anything that reflects adversely on the Party/candidate "fake news" and "mainstream media bias", which is hysterical considering Farage is a presenter and shareholder in GB News, which in itself is basically a Reform propaganda channel.

If they were only factually correct, Hugh, I wouldn’t mind, but I know that a lot of what is said about Farage and his policies is patently untrue. They are just comments parroted from his detractors.

How do I know this? I listen to what he’s actually saying. It does help!

---------- Post added at 20:44 ---------- Previous post was at 20:40 ----------

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Reform's biggest issue is being squeezed between the Conservative Party and Restore Britain.

If you want a full-on populist party that promises to ban the burka, defund the BBC and introduce large-scale deportations then Restore Britain covers that territory. Farage opened a Pandora's box by offering impractical populist policies which he's now reigning back on but Rupert Lowe is not so constrained and enjoy's Musk's social media support.

If you want a right-wing party which has the most experience of governing and is safe to mention at dinner parties in the home counties then the Conservative Party has you covered here.

The three-way divisions on the right look sufficient to squeeze Reform and keep them out of power in the next general election. Farage's decision not to keep Rupert Lowe within the Reform UK tent could be his biggest strategic mistake.

You wish! Restore has a very poor level of support, and FPTP does not favour political parties with a low percentage of the national vote. Look at how many seats Reform got last time, even with the popularity percentage they achieved. It’s all turned around now, you might as well admit it, even if you don’t like it.

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

If they were only factually correct, Hugh, I wouldn’t mind, but I know that a lot of what is said about Farage and his policies is patently untrue. They are just comments parroted from his detractors.

How do I know this? I listen to what he’s actually saying. It does help!.

And I look at what he's actually doing...


So he didn't take £5 million from a Thai-based cryptocurrency billionaire, then changed the the reason why he was given it, or declare it when he became an MP?


(and then hasn't held any press conferences or appeared on any media programmes since the news came out, to avoid having to answer questions on it?)

[Carth]

He does right not to 'appear' on any media programs that will (no matter what the subject of the show) relentlessly question him about it . . . and then twist his answers.