Online Safety Bill Etc

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Jusr been on the BBC news that mobile phones are to be banned for children in schools by law in England, so hopefully this will help to curtail bullying (includes both smart & non smart phones.)

Richard, you are so woke!

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Originally Posted by Stephen

How on earth will it curtailing bullying?? They can still access their phones outside of school hours.

The kids will get bored with nothing to do at breaks so playground bullying will resume, just like the olden days when we all had to learn to grow a pair.

[damien c]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Jusr been on the BBC news that mobile phones are to be banned for children in schools by law in England, so hopefully this will help to curtail bullying (includes both smart & non smart phones.)

Won't stop bullying in the slightest, it will just revert back to how it was years ago, "Oh look at you with your £1 shoes" "oh you don't have (insert brand) clothes" "oh you have a packed lunch how poor are you" and all the other stuff that was used to bully kids.


Again this whole namby pamby attitude is pathetic.

[RichardCoulter]

The salient point of this is not to deal with bullying, but to deal with the addictive nature and harm of social media.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Richard, you are so woke!

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The kids will get bored with nothing to do at breaks so playground bullying will resume, just like the olden days when we all had to learn to grow a pair.

What does being 'woke' mean to you?

[Carth]

I think he refers to finding the magic door which leads to the land of the Golden Butterfly, where rainbow Unicorns trot across pleasant green meadows and the sweet silence is only occasionally broken by the brightly coloured Dragons chuckling to themselves as they pass overhead.

. . or something equally as disturbing

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

The salient point of this is not to deal with bullying, but to deal with the addictive nature and harm of social media.

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What does being 'woke' mean to you?

[RichardCoulter]

Utah first state to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs — law goes into effect, designed to prevent bypassing age checks:

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...rification-law

The legal risk could push sites to either ban all known VPN IPs or mandate age verification for every visitor globally.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Utah first state to hold websites liable for users who mask their location with VPNs — law goes into effect, designed to prevent bypassing age checks:

https://www.tomshardware.com/softwar...rification-law

The legal risk could push sites to either ban all known VPN IPs or mandate age verification for every visitor globally.

Or not

I think this says it all, more idiots who have no clue.

The law is also technically flawed, given that it assumes that a web provider can reliably detect VPN traffic and determine a user’s true physical location — they can’t.

[Carth]

Figures really, I think they've always been a little strange in Utah.

[jem]

https://www.theregister.com/security...stache/5224601

Basically according to a survey, kids in the UK have reported bypassing age checks by simply drawing a moustache on themselves - although what the boys do is not mentioned!

As said from the very beginning, although I fully support the ‘aims’ of the law, it was never, ever going to work, So much for the robust measures!

But is surely raises another point, if kids are doing this then if follows that they are actively wanting to access this material, yes the measures may, may, stop little Susan or William, ‘accidentally’ stumbling across this, but I doubt that this ever really happened in real life. So some are actively taking steps to bypass the blocks - seriously is anyone surprised?

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by jem

https://www.theregister.com/security...stache/5224601

Basically according to a survey, kids in the UK have reported bypassing age checks by simply drawing a moustache on themselves - although what the boys do is not mentioned!

As said from the very beginning, although I fully support the ‘aims’ of the law, it was never, ever going to work, So much for the robust measures!

But is surely raises another point, if kids are doing this then if follows that they are actively wanting to access this material, yes the measures may, may, stop little Susan or William, ‘accidentally’ stumbling across this, but I doubt that this ever really happened in real life. So some are actively taking steps to bypass the blocks - seriously is anyone surprised?

No matter what blocks they put in place there will AWAYS be a work around.

[jem]

Originally Posted by Sirius

No matter what blocks they put in place there will AWAYS be a work around.

Of course there will be; so the answer (or at least a better solution) is .... drumroll..... education and parental responsibility.

And it’s education for both parents and children, parents need to explain to their children, that ‘yes, we’ll put some blocks in place, but I know they aren’t perfect and you’ll probably find stuff which disturbs you, or you are not sure about - in which case come and show me or your Mum, and I promise you that you are not in any sort of trouble and we will explain things to you!’

I think that the basic problem is that too many parents simply want to abrogate their responsibilities and want to hand them off to the government/ISP.

Don’t ever try to provide a technological solution to what is actually a parental problem.

[Itshim]

Isn't parents and responsibilities an oxymoron

[jem]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Isn't parents and responsibilities an oxymoron

Alas often yes - but it depends on the parent.