Antisemitism is a 'national emergency'

Originally Posted by Chris

Said young Adolf in about 1930.

It doesn’t matter how many people there are in a particular religious or ethnic group. Europe still has living memory of what happens when persecution of such a group is allowed to go on. In the last couple of months we’ve had murder, attempted murder, premises vandalised, vehicles torched … and not all in one corner of London either, it’s occurring in various places. Add to that the credible evidence, being reported today, that bad actors (i.e. Iran) are inciting and possibly even facilitating it, and we very much are into emergency territory. We can’t cede the streets to lawlessness, no matter who the victims are.

Try to invoke Hitler as reasoning really isnt going to fly.
I'm surprised you would actually try and use that for justification.

As I noted, yes, it may be an issue in some areas.
Its not a "National Emergency", not by any means.

Running out of fuel, that would be more of a National Emergency.

Hitler, specifically in this case, because the victims are Jews. Surely you can see the parallel. A great many Germans in the 1930s had no particular animosity towards Jews and went along with it because it was far easier to pile on to a minority than to defend them. But sure, it doesn’t have to be Hitler - Jews have had a particular problem with religious/ethnic persecution in Europe for centuries. That’s why ‘antisemitism’ has its own name. It’s supremely ugly wherever such pogroms flare up, and it’s sickening that it should be happening here and now.

[Carth]

Two types of religious nutjobs in the UK.

The pleasant ones that stop you in the street trying to give (or sell) you pamphlets, and the not so pleasant that try to stop you in the street with a knife (or machete)

Both are prone to believing untruths (IMO) handed down generation to generation

Green Party aren’t helping themselves…

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...d-antisemitism

Two women standing as Green party candidates in the local elections have been arrested over alleged antisemitic social media posts.

The women, running in seats for Lambeth council, south London, were arrested by the Metropolitan police on Thursday morning.

The Green party declined to comment, citing the ongoing police inquiry, but the women are understood to be Saiqa Ali, a Lambeth Green candidate for Streatham St Leonard’s ward, and Sabine Mairey, who was standing in Lambeth’s Clapham Town.

The Met said in a statement: “Police have arrested two women, aged 57 and 54, on suspicion of stirring up racial hatred online, an offence under section 19 of the Public Order Act 1986. They remain in police custody.

“The arrests follow an investigation launched after concerns were reported to police on Tuesday 21 April about antisemitic material that had been posted online.”

Ali’s Instagram account is set to private but screenshots indicated she had posted an image of an armed man wearing a headband of the banned Islamist group Hamas along with the slogan: “Resistance is freedom”.

Another screenshot indicated that Mairey had shared a post which included the text: “Ramming a synagogue isn’t antisemitism. It’s revenge.”

And for balance

https://www.thetimes.com/article/3ed...4adda04aeef07d

One of Reform’s candidates is Ben Rowe, who is standing in the Ham ward of Plymouth. He urged protesters throwing bricks at police defending a mosque to “get rid of that filthy building” during the 2024 Southport riots.

Commenting beneath a YouTube video in February, Rowe accused “the Jews” of “creating division by forcing other races on our societies”. He elsewhere described immigrants to the UK “breeding like rats”, posted blackface memes and labelled Islam “a cancer”.

And from my neck of the woods

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics...hant-nd5llwhgf

Raja posted a 23-minute video on his TikTok account of him taking part in a demonstration against Israeli attacks on Gaza in June 2024, captioned: “I led a protest in Leeds today [in] solidarity with the people of Palestine.”

In the video, the Reform candidate is seen at the front of the march with a Workers Party sign reading: “For Britain, for Gaza”. Raja chanted slogans including “end apartheid”, “Israel is a terrorist state” and “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free”.

Nigel Farage, the leader of Reform, has described “from the river to the sea” as a “hate slogan” which calls for “the abolition of the state of Israel and, frankly, the eradication of the Jewish people that live there as well”.

Originally Posted by Chris

Hitler, specifically in this case, because the victims are Jews. Surely you can see the parallel. A great many Germans in the 1930s had no particular animosity towards Jews and went along with it because it was far easier to pile on to a minority than to defend them. But sure, it doesn’t have to be Hitler - Jews have had a particular problem with religious/ethnic persecution in Europe for centuries. That’s why ‘antisemitism’ has its own name. It’s supremely ugly wherever such pogroms flare up, and it’s sickening that it should be happening here and now.

None of that makes any difference to my point, its not a "National Emergency".

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Paul

None of that makes any difference to my point, its not a "National Emergency".

Even if it was, the media (and politicians) will be following a different 'incident' next week. There's so much crap going on in the UK that they never get a minute to sort any of it.

[papa smurf]

one mentally unstable man with a pen knife does not a national emergency make

on the other hand the price of fuel is a national emergency

[Carth]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

one mentally unstable man with a pen knife does not a national emergency make

on the other hand the price of fuel is a national emergency

. . . . can I add NHS, Social Care, Water Utilities, Housing, Unemployment, Public Transport, Prisons, Drugs . . . . Politics

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Plays straight into bibi's hands, he's been telling Jews for decades that they're not safe and move to Israel to help with his expansionist policies without taking any responsibility for those policies making people less safe and that's without questioning the false equivalence he loves to trot out that criticism of Israeli government policy is anti semetic, get that last point through the excrement for brains losers here and it'd solve a lot of the problems..

That’s your colours nailed to the mast.

That you should link Bibi’s expansionist policies to the safety of Jews in the UK adds the extra nails.



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Originally Posted by papa smurf

one mentally unstable man with a pen knife does not a national emergency make

on the other hand the price of fuel is a national emergency

Except that enough’s enough. Something has to tip matters over the edge.

“National Emergency”, if it really were, would allow us to push the invading boats back.


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Originally Posted by Paul

Jews apparently make up less than 0.5% of the total UK population.
I dont doubt there are issues in some areas, but not exactly a National Emergency.

The Jew haters will love that remark.

Certain Muslims would like that 0.5% to be eradicated. Christians next.

[TheDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

That’s your colours nailed to the mast.

That you should link Bibi’s expansionist policies to the safety of Jews in the UK adds the extra nails.

Wrong as usual, it's why I usually ignore everything you say as irrelevant drivel.

I think its a disgrace people including someone I have known and worked with for years have left the UK (and taken his large amounts of cash with him) because they are scared of how Jews are treated here but that doesn't mean I'm oblivious to the fact Israeli government policy is making it harder for Jews everywhere, probably deliberately designed to as well nor that their ludicrous claims that criticism of those policies is antisemitic, which gets into the heads of some and aligns with others thinking, with predictable results and yet again innocent people suffer and the bigger picture ignored because you can't call out the Greater Israel nut jobs coz it's antisemitic, even though there is more Christian that believe in it than Jewish.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by TheDaddy

Wrong as usual, it's why I usually ignore everything you say as irrelevant drivel.

I think its a disgrace people including someone I have known and worked with for years have left the UK (and taken his large amounts of cash with him) because they are scared of how Jews are treated here but that doesn't mean I'm oblivious to the fact Israeli government policy is making it harder for Jews everywhere, probably deliberately designed to as well nor that their ludicrous claims that criticism of those policies is antisemitic, which gets into the heads of some and aligns with others thinking, with predictable results and yet again innocent people suffer and the bigger picture ignored because you can't call out the Greater Israel nut jobs coz it's antisemitic, even though there is more Christian that believe in it than Jewish.

My words are not "irrelevant drivel". If anyone agrees with The Daddy on that point, please put your heads above the parapet.

There is no valid parallel between Israel's past action in Gaza and extension of the violence towards British Jews by Intifada types in the UK.

but that doesn't mean I'm oblivious to the fact Israeli government policy is making it harder for Jews everywhere

This is the real giveaway. Israeli government policy should not be quoted in this context. Yes, you're right - that policy stirs up the antisemitic baddies. But it is the antisemitic baddies that must be faced in relation to UK antisemitism, not the Israeli government.