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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Seemed to work well enough for Boris Johnson when he apparently failed vetting but was still made Foreign Secretary by Theresa May.
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Yes, and look how that turned out!
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Yesterday, 12:50
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Starmer was advised Mandelson should be vetted before appointment, documents show
Sir Keir Starmer was advised that a political appointee such as Peter Mandelson should undergo national security vetting before he was formally appointed, documents uncovered by Sky News show.
In papers published by the government under the terms of the humble address mandating the release of documents, there is a letter from the then cabinet secretary, Lord Simon Case, setting out the process ahead of the appointment.
The then top civil servant wrote to the prime minister:
"You should give us the name of the person you would like to appoint and we will develop a plan for them to acquire the necessary security clearances and do due diligence on any potential Conflicts of Interest or other issues of which you should be aware before confirming your choice."
This note was sent to the PM on 11 November 2024.
Mandelson was announced as the PM's choice for US ambassador on 20 December 2024, and vetting took place after that.
It has since emerged that Mandelson, who was later sacked from the role after further details emerged about his relationship with the paedophile financier Jeffrey Epstein, failed the process.
However, he was granted security clearance by the top civil servant in the Foreign Office...
Sir Keir Starmer is going to address MPs in the House of Commons at 3.30pm over the Peter Mandelson vetting scandal
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https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...bbins-12593360
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Yesterday, 14:07
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
I repeat is he the only person in the world not to know mandelsons track record
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Yesterday, 14:53
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I repeat is he the only person in the world not to know mandelsons track record
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Starmer obviously knows it but thought he was a better fit with the Trump administration than other candidates.
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Yesterday, 15:06
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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I repeat is he the only person in the world not to know mandelsons track record
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Well, the Daily Mail/Dan Hodges called him "the perfect choice" and co-hosted and funded his Ambassador's party at the British Embassy in Washington last April, so they must have liked him...
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/a...mbassador.html
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Peter Mandelson is cynical, manipulative, ruthless, calculating, cunning and ambitious – and the perfect choice to be Britain’s new ambassador to Washington.
The Prime Minister’s decision to appoint the man once dubbed ‘The Prince of Darkness’ to the coveted role has caused consternation, especially among his old foes in the Labour movement.
‘For many reasons associated with Peter Mandelson’s history in and out of political office, many people will feel Keir has lost all sense of political judgment on this decision,’ raged Corbynite former Labour shadow chancellor John McDonnell.
‘Ugh!’ fumed Diane Abbott. ‘Mandelson [is] repeatedly referred to as a “big hitter” or “big beast”, even by himself! [These terms are] never applied to women in politics with just as much experience, some who have never been sacked from government or who have supported far fewer wars.’
But howls of Leftist anguish simply serve to underline the wisdom of the decision.
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/us-...hdc-party.html
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Published: 22:06, 26 April 2025 | Updated: 22:34, 26 April 2025
The MAGA stars were out and shining at The Daily Mail party on Friday ahead of the White House Correspondents' Dinner party.
From Trump administration officials like Veterans Affairs Sec. Doug Collins and Administrator for the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS), Mehmet Oz, to conservative influencers Savannah Chrisley and Sean Spicer, the event at the British Ambassador's Residence drew a buzzing crowd of MAGALands' most influential.
Nestled among the palatial compounds and embassies on Washington's famed Massachusetts Avenue, the event at the British Ambassador's Residence, hosted alongside The Brunswick Group, featured an array of cocktails, whiskey tastings, British hors d'oeuvres, an address from Lord Peter Mandelson.
Guests also mingled around the DailyMail.com blue carpet, where some stopped to share their thoughts on President Trump's first 100 days in office.
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Yesterday, 20:24
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Hugh
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Since when is the daily mail or any other news paper to taken at face value. 
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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So what? It wasn't a party for Mandelson, it was a party for the British Embassy, regardless of who the Ambassador was.
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Yesterday, 23:46
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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So what? It wasn't a party for Mandelson, it was a party for the British Embassy, regardless of who the Ambassador was.
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Well, the Daily Mail/Dan Hodges called him "the perfect choice"
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
That was before anything came out.
Plus :-
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Peter Mandelson is cynical, manipulative, ruthless, calculating, cunning and ambitious – and the perfect choice to be Britain’s new ambassador to Washington.
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Today, 07:15
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by nomadking
That was before anything came out.
Plus :-
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Before anything came out? His association with Epstein has been known since 2019. He was also forced to resign from two previous governments for shady behaviour.
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Today, 08:35
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Before anything came out? His association with Epstein has been known since 2019. He was also forced to resign from two previous governments for shady behaviour.
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A whole bunch of people were associated with Epstein, including Bill Clinton. The reasons for the failed vetting wasn't connected to Epstein.
The failure of the vetting was publicised(The Independent and spoken about in Parliament) in Sept 2025. Yet somehow Starmer didn't know until a few days ago.
Loved one of the comments in Parliament that Starmer "will run out of buses before he runs out of people to throw under them". 
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Today, 09:17
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Hmmm, sacked minister questioned by Foreign Affairs Select Committee seems to be attempting to kick Starmer in the nuts whilst also patting him on the back.
Just normal everyday practice from anyone remotely involved with politics
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Senior Civil Servant, not Minister…
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Today, 11:41
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Hmmm, sacked minister questioned by Foreign Affairs Select Committee seems to be attempting to kick Starmer in the nuts whilst also patting him on the back.
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he's holding back the good stuff as he has a wrongful dismissal case to sort out and protect his pension from starmers vengeance
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Today, 11:56
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Senior Civil Servant, not Minister…
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aah, thanks for explaining, although it's a fancy name for a secretary isn't it?
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