Online Safety Bill Etc

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Sirius

I don't have a credit card so i had to go with the driving licence option to confirm my age on my iPhone, it took 12 attempts before it finally accepted my detail and confirmed i am over 18. They need to sort it out other wise they are going to ether lose users to Android or the help lines will be full.

I wonder if this data is being shared with the Government and if it is why.

Now that your phone has verified you're over 18, are you still being asked for age verification on websites (without using your VPN?)

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Ridiculous verdict and award. All this does is threaten to take away perfectly good and loved apps from adults. This is a wrecking ball mentality fuelled by a working class hatred of multi-million pound organisations.

I’m surprised that the States has done this. Hopefully, some common sense will be injected at the appeal.

This programme provides some insight into the claim:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct8mbs

In a bellwether case, a jury in Los Angeles found on Wednesday that Meta and YouTube are responsible for a young woman’s childhood addiction to social media, and intentionally built addictive platforms that harmed her health. The companies say they intend to appeal against the verdict, which could set a legal precedent and have far-reaching consequences.

Marianna Spring, the BBC’s social media investigations correspondent, has spent the past year speaking to whistleblowers and insiders from social media companies, revealing how algorithms designed to connect people have been helping to tear them apart. We ask if this week’s verdict is just the start of something much bigger

[nffc]

Ironic i misread "bellwether" as "bedwetter" there

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Now that your phone has verified you're over 18, are you still being asked for age verification on websites (without using your VPN?)

Websites are not going to magically know your phone has passed any such verification.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Now that your phone has verified you're over 18, are you still being asked for age verification on websites (without using your VPN?)

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This programme provides some insight into the claim:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3ct8mbs

I am still using a VPN as I do not agree with all the tracking that goes on. I only use my phone on the net when I am out of the house. I use a pc in the house so the apple verification does not work for the pc.

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Originally Posted by Paul

Websites are not going to magically know your phone has passed any such verification.

Indeed

[damien c]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Apple brings in age checks for UK iPhone users:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c20qwz9xzr9o

This could be the way forward so that adults don't have to verify their age for multiple websites.

Nope it's just more ways to force ID Checks on to anything and everything.

This has wiped out any benefits to Apple from Android as Apple have publicly lied to it's user base and potential user base.

https://www.theverge.com/tech/884306...-ios-26-4-beta

Use the "13 foot ladder" to block the paywall etc.

Android, Windows, Linux etc are all implementing it, and those who think they are not are delusional.

This will not stop app's or websites demanding you provide a copy of your ID to them in order to access something you should be able to access.

Also in case anyone was not aware, ALL of your messages and photos are going to be scanned!

https://www.bowcockpursaill.co.uk/ne...act-expanding/

This is something that was originally blocked because of privacy etc but now this clown show have used the "Cyber Flashing" law to force companies to start looking at all your messages and photos, so no more saucy photo's to your partners otherwise you will be labelled and flagged for monitoring!

All this now does is mean more people will be looking at secure messaging services and avoid using the likes of Fakebook, Whatsapp etc as they are not secure, neither is the messages on your phone etc, I believe even emails will be scanned.

FFS we cannot stop people breaking into this country and this clown show of a government and people who support the OSA and Digital ID think that we can somehow stop our information from being stolen?

Anyone who supports both in the current forms are delusional and need locking up!


North Korea is looking more and more sane on a daily basis!!

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

Websites are not going to magically know your phone has passed any such verification.

I wondered if it would be possible for websites that require proof of being over 18 to be able to grant access after cross checking with the device. I suppose the argument is that someone under 18 could be using a parents, a lost or stolen phone in order to access adult material.

[jem]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I wondered if it would be possible for websites that require proof of being over 18 to be able to grant access after cross checking with the device. I suppose the argument is that someone under 18 could be using a parents, a lost or stolen phone in order to access adult material.

No, absolutely not.

The point of Apple’s requirement for age verification is to cover themselves with respect to the OSA and also with new legislation in California. Not verifying your age, blocks you from installing 18+ rated apps from the App Store, and a couple of other things regarding settings. But this is absolutely not shared with anyone else, so no; websites hosting adult content will still need to check themselves.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jem

No, absolutely not.

The point of Apple’s requirement for age verification is to cover themselves with respect to the OSA and also with new legislation in California. Not verifying your age, blocks you from installing 18+ rated apps from the App Store, and a couple of other things regarding settings. But this is absolutely not shared with anyone else, so no; websites hosting adult content will still need to check themselves.

Thanks for explaining, so this measure is limited in what it can do. I think it worth the powers that be exploring if the device age verification could be extended to the internet as a whole, so that adults aren't inconvenienced by having to repeatedly verify theur age whilst, at the ssne time, children are blocked from inappropriate sites.

Re: The Australian ban on social media for U16's.

Channel 5 say that reported figures show that 61% of children aged 12 to 15 are still accessing social media. This isn't because they are somehow circumventing the ban eg by using VPN's, but because social media companies aren't doing as they should do.

It also shows that at least 61% of children dont want a ban.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

It also shows that at least 61% of children dont want a ban.

I'm sure they don't, but it's not for them to decide at those ages.

A woman said on TV today that she was livid when her school banned social media, but now that she's older and has children of her own, she realises that it was a good thing.

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

I'm sure they don't, but it's not for them to decide at those ages.

Ah, right, children should be seen and not heard. Got it.

[Carth]

If it was SAFER to go outside instead of sitting on their phones, maybe they would