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[thenry]

I don't like being at the feet of an enemy just so I don't feel economic pain. Irans a threat to the middle east itself shown in abundance thus far. Irans war with America is something else.

Originally Posted by thenry

I don't like being at the feet of an enemy just so I don't feel economic pain. Irans a threat to the middle east itself shown in abundance thus far. Irans war with America is something else.

Don’t you mean Israel and America’s war with Iran?

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

Don’t you mean Israel and America’s war with Iran?

No. A passenger plane shot down many moons ago are still grievances for Iran.

Originally Posted by thenry

No. A passenger plane shot down many moons ago are still grievances for Iran.

So, in retaliation for the USA allegedly shooting down Iran Air 655, Iran was attacked by Israel and the USA - interesting way of looking at things...


Does that mean Malaysia and South Korea are at war with Russia?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Hugh

In today’s FT

Good article. It does look like Iran has the US by the short and curleys here!

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

So, in retaliation for the USA allegedly shooting down Iran Air 655, Iran was attacked by Israel and the USA - interesting way of looking at things...


Does that mean Malaysia and South Korea are at war with Russia?

All I said was Iran had its own war going on with America.

[Dingbat]

Makes me wonder why the Gulf states, with all the money they have, haven’t considered building a ship canal across the peninsular to avoid going through the strait and anywhere near the Iran coast.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Dingbat

Makes me wonder why the Gulf states, with all the money they have, haven’t considered building a ship canal across the peninsular to avoid going through the strait and anywhere near the Iran coast.

It could also possibly help alleviate those pesky rising sea levels we keep hearing of.

Actually, we in the UK should build more canals and fewer roads . . every little helps

Originally Posted by thenry

All I said was Iran had its own war going on with America.

It really didn't...

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

It really didn't...

How so?

Originally Posted by Dingbat

Makes me wonder why the Gulf states, with all the money they have, haven’t considered building a ship canal across the peninsular to avoid going through the strait and anywhere near the Iran coast.

It's about 800km (Suez Canal is under 200km) - and the canal would still be in missile and drone range of Iran...

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

@1Andrew1@
I like the “sister journal” attribution to the Torygraph. Has the Springer deal been approved?

I thought it had but I've not followed it too closely, there is probably quite a lot of red tape to jump though though. We'll know for sure when the editorials become less eurosceptic.

Originally Posted by thenry

How so?

You said "All I said was Iran had its own war going on with America."

Currently, the USA and Israel have hit over 15,000 targets in Iran in the last two weeks (including a school with over 160 dead schoolchildren), sunk 60 Iranian Navy ships, and have stated that this is ramping up, and Hegseth has stated there will be "no quarter" (which is a war crime and illegal under both the Geneva Convention and the US Department of Defence Laws of War Manual).

What war like this did Iran have going on with the USA?

[thenry]

Originally Posted by Hugh

You said "All I said was Iran had its own war going on with America."

Currently, the USA and Israel have hit over 15,000 targets in Iran in the last two weeks (including a school with over 160 dead schoolchildren), sunk 60 Iranian Navy ships, and have stated that this is ramping up, and Hegseth has stated there will be "no quarter" (which is a war crime and illegal under both the Geneva Convention and the US Department of Defence rules).

What war like this did Iran have going on with the USA?

Has sorry had does sound different to what I meant. Iran has it's own grievances with America which could be a total different war with America.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

@1Andrew1@
I like the “sister journal” attribution to the Torygraph. Has the Springer deal been approved?

I still maintain my “midge” point. The journos like to set hares running. There’s a 2025 Military Cooperation Agreement between Russia and Cuba that might come into play, but no kmutual defence treaty.

It’s not the journos, it’s Trump

https://wapo.st/3PfVsrx

President Donald Trump has made clear that Cuba is next on his agenda of states to topple, following the January capture of Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro and the launching of a war against Iran.


The U.S., Trump said late last week, “is looking forward to the great change that will be coming to Cuba,” a country that is “at the end of the line” and in its “last moments of life".

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“They’re down to fumes,” Trump said Monday, “It may be a friendly takeover, it might not be a friendly takeover. It wouldn’t matter.”


“We are talking to Cuba, whose leaders should make a deal,” a White House official said Friday in response to questions about the talks. “Cuba is a failing nation whose rulers have had a major setback with the loss of support from Venezuela and with Mexico ceasing to send them oil.” The official spoke on the condition of anonymity under rules set by the White House.