General : TV360 - pro and cons

[1701-e]

There is a default shared profile. I have another one where subtitles are switched on so it's handy to switch profile as required even during watching a recording.
Just one useful tool of profiles

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

A great deal of my viewing is watched with my wife, but while we have a shared interest in good quality dramas and news/politics, my wife also likes reality shows, whereas I gravitate towards music, documentaries and more in-depth news analysis. So when I’m out, making dinner or working upstairs, my wife finds it very useful to have all her own shows in the watchlist with her profile.

Similarly, if my wife has started snoozing on the sofa or has gone to bed, I can watch the things I like on my profile.

If you have a family that likes all the same things, that is very unusual.

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But they don’t want to, Richard. They would like you to voluntarily change your box!

They are trying to manipulate people to change to the 360. As Sky Atlantic is no longer the channel it was 15 years ago, i'll be sticking with my V6.

In any case, I think that they will rinse this situation and then add Sky Atlantic to the V6. Sky say it will be made available to every customer and won't want a situation that artificially dampers down viewing figures & ad revenue.

[Taz2k]

Originally Posted by 1701-e

There is a default shared profile. I have another one where subtitles are switched on so it's handy to switch profile as required even during watching a recording.
Just one useful tool of profiles

A useful tool to some people, but by no means a must-have feature.
Switching profiles to turn subtitles on and off is not a convenience, that's what the subtitles button on the remote is for.

[1701-e]

Originally Posted by Taz2k

A useful tool to some people, but by no means a must-have feature.
Switching profiles to turn subtitles on and off is not a convenience, that's what the subtitles button on the remote is for.

You can just say "subtitles " into the mic. But if a dedicated subtitles button is so important then fine stick with V6

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Taz2k

Sure but you could also add both of your interests to a single profile and just pick out the ones that interest you. How crowded are your profiles to need 2?

The whole reason for having profiles is to make it easier and quicker to find your stuff.

We also make used of the shared profile for the programmes we watch together.

There’s a lot of programmes on each profile, so we have plenty of choice.

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Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

They are trying to manipulate people to change to the 360. As Sky Atlantic is no longer the channel it was 15 years ago, i'll be sticking with my V6.

In any case, I think that they will rinse this situation and then add Sky Atlantic to the V6. Sky say it will be made available to every customer and won't want a situation that artificially dampers down viewing figures & ad revenue.

I don’t think so, Richard. They could discontinue the TiVo software tomorrow if they wished to do so.

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Originally Posted by Taz2k

A useful tool to some people, but by no means a must-have feature.
Switching profiles to turn subtitles on and off is not a convenience, that's what the subtitles button on the remote is for.

It’s not a TiVo clone, Taz. Just make your choice based on what is best for you and your family. While you continue to have the choice, you can just stay with what you have if that works for you.

But calling the 360 a ‘downgrade’ is just mad. TiVo has some unique features which you won’t find on Sky Q either.

When VM divests itself of the TiVo software, you might like to consider buying a TiVo TV. That might work for you.

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[Itshim]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The whole reason for having profiles is to make it easier and quicker to find your stuff.

We also make used of the shared profile for the programmes we watch together.

There’s a lot of programmes on each profile, so we have plenty of choice.

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I don’t think so, Richard. They could discontinue the TiVo software tomorrow if they wished to do so.

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It’s not a TiVo clone, Taz. Just make your choice based on what is best for you and your family. While you continue to have the choice, you can just stay with what you have if that works for you.

But calling the 360 a ‘downgrade’ is just mad. TiVo has some unique features which you won’t find on Sky Q either.

When VM divests itself of the TiVo software, you might like to consider buying a TiVo TV. That might work for you.

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Are you on commission seem to be pushing it, just to say I am not swapping out , as V6 fits my needs , when it goes it goes , not sure if it will be me or it

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Are you on commission seem to be pushing it, just to say I am not swapping out , as V6 fits my needs , when it goes it goes , not sure if it will be me or it

No, just correcting some misconceptions, Itshim.

[SonicMaster]

One of the things I like most about the 360 is the universal search function so I can simply use my voice to find content anywhere across Virgin TV, Disney+, Paramount+, Prime Video, Apple TV, BBC iPlayer etc.

It's so quick and convenient.

[Taz2k]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

The whole reason for having profiles is to make it easier and quicker to find your stuff.

We also make used of the shared profile for the programmes we watch together.

There’s a lot of programmes on each profile, so we have plenty of choice.

A disclosure here. Back in a previous life (not really but 20 or so years ago seems like a previous life) I was involved in the development work of some of these XBMC forks. Many quirky features were added and not all were added because of consumer demand. Sometimes simply because the coders had an idea and wanted to work on developing it, whether users wanted it or not. Other times because the software had commercial versions and the sellers wanted additional features to market, just to differentiate their software from another.org's version. They were marketing features rather than must haves. Many features fell by the wayside as customers simply didn't use them. Some were discontinued for years but reintroduced later, again primarily as marketing features.

Sometimes decisions were the opposite of what customers were asking for. UK users wanted their TV channels to use LCNs as was the norm with Freeview. This would have slowed down channel scanning as 2 frequency scans were needed. The first a DVB compliant scan. The second scan to read in NorDig descriptors which carried the LCN data. Software providers went with the faster scan, more suitable to European DVB platforms which didn't use LCNs. UK users lost out, so marketing policies won that battle rather than UK consumers.

To me, profiles fit into that category. Useful to some users who prefer to micro-manage access to their content in the most convoluted way possible. You will probably see it differently.

It’s not a TiVo clone, Taz. Just make your choice based on what is best for you and your family. While you continue to have the choice, you can just stay with what you have if that works for you.

But calling the 360 a ‘downgrade’ is just mad. TiVo has some unique features which you won’t find on Sky Q either.

When VM divests itself of the TiVo software, you might like to consider buying a TiVo TV. That might work for you.

I made up my mind many, many years ago. It was never a fantastic idea to develop software forked from something with such a tenuous history. You are correct, it certainly isn't a Tivo clone. I do consider it to be a downgrade. Adding features I neither want nor need is no compromise for giving up features I want and which I use.

Idiotic comments such as suggesting a Tivo TV don't help your argument. They have absolutely nothing to do with Tivo recording features. Tivo was bought out a long time ago by Xperi, a technology company more interested in acquiring intellectual property and selling on licences to use it. Not particularly interested in continuing with actual Tivo recorders. Xperi wanted to get into selling IP licences for the TV market. They bought out Vewd Software, which itself had evolved from Opera Apps (the seldom used browser). Vewd app store was not the best, it was used as an app contributor to the early Vidaa platform used by Hisense and Toshiba TVs. Another contributor was Foxxum, which is now part of the, Singapore based, smart TV environment and online platform WhaleTV / WhaleTV+. Anyone who has bought the Manhattan Aero Freely device, powered by Tivo, will have to accept licences to use Vewd software and the device identifies on wifi networks with the Vewd name. Integration of Vewd into the Tivo brand has some way to go but it doesn't record and doesn't have the features of Tivo recorders. In short they are totally unrelated.

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY

No, just correcting some misconceptions, Itshim.

More like creating misconceptions with that Tivo TV suggestion.

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Originally Posted by SonicMaster

One of the things I like most about the 360 is the universal search function so I can simply use my voice to find content anywhere across Virgin TV, Disney+, Paramount+, Prime Video, Apple TV, BBC iPlayer etc.

It's so quick and convenient.

Quick and convenient is asking Alexa to search, as can be done with Roku. Having to grab the remote, press a button and talk into the remote seems to create steps that other platforms have managed to avoid.

[Itshim]

Have voice control on TV , never use it , in fact I dislike it.

I find the voice control on Sky Q to be useful sometimes.
I often use it to start up Amazon Prime, Disney+, Netflix etc, as its quicker than going through the menus.

[dodgem22]

i asked it for allo allo last night and it asked is it me youre looking for. Very witty 360 but no i was looking for Allo Allo, I dont think it was my accent but who knows. Funny anyway

[japitts]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

Just read that Sky have stated that Sky Atlantic will soon be available in 3m more homes after joining Virgin, that's the whole of the Virgin TV subscriber base.

Do you have a link please?

Originally Posted by SonicMaster

One of the things I like most about the 360 is the universal search function so I can simply use my voice to find content anywhere across Virgin TV, Disney+, Paramount+, Prime Video, Apple TV, BBC iPlayer etc.

Whilst a valid point, I'm not sure what this does over & above what V6 "search & explore" does? Disney, Paramount & Apple content aside.

[TimeLord2018]

Can't post a link since it was a email


"Find out more" goes to

https://www.virginmedia.com/tv/sky-atlantic

Another interesting one in terms of Sky Atlantic

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Itshim

Have voice control on TV , never use it , in fact I dislike it.

People have been certified for talking to remote controls.

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018

Can't post a link since it was email


Find out more goes to

https://www.virginmedia.com/tv/sky-atlantic

Don't think the "brands' will be pleased when they find out VM are excluding a lot of their customers.