Online Safety Bill Etc

[Carth]

No thanks Richard, it's bad enough just knowing this crap happens, I've got no desire to go delving deep into the gory details . . .

Maybe others do, but it's a no from me.

[RichardCoulter]

HarmBlock is a system that is embedded into the operating system (so can't be switched off) of devices to prevent inappropriate activity.

It will prevent explicit harmful imagery from being seen, shot, shared, produced and stored. The first device from Nokia is now available with more to follow.

[Carth]

I didn't think Nokia were still players in the game, who the heck uses Nokia nowadays?

Majority of kids (whom incidentally we/you are trying to protect) cry and throw a tantrum if they can't have the latest iPhone.

*on bandwagon jump they do*

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

HarmBlock is a system that is embedded into the operating system (so can't be switched off) of devices to prevent inappropriate activity.

Who definess "inappropriate activity" ?
Who would want something you cannot control (see above) ?

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Paul

Who definess "inappropriate activity" ?
Who would want something you cannot control (see above) ?

These phones will be invaluable to children and other vulnerable members of society, those who have no wish to be exposed to the seedy side of the internet or where the owner of the device/bill payer does not wish to facilitate inappropriate use.

https://harmblock.com/

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

These phones will be invaluable to children and other vulnerable members of society, those who have no wish to be exposed to the seedy side of the internet or where the owner of the device/bill payer does not wish to facilitate inappropriate use.

You dont need a special phone to avoid the "seedy side of the internet" side. Myself and millions of others manage to do it just fine.

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

These phones will be invaluable to children and other vulnerable members of society, those who have no wish to be exposed to the seedy side of the internet or where the owner of the device/bill payer does not wish to facilitate inappropriate use.

https://harmblock.com/

That doesn't need a special app or device.


Don't go looking for it and you won't be exposed to it

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Paul

You dont need a special phone to avoid the "seedy side of the internet" side. Myself and millions of others manage to do it just fine.

Originally Posted by Stephen

That doesn't need a special app or device.


Don't go looking for it and you won't be exposed to it

Both of the above are absolutely correct.

The UK should legislate a 'Darwin' rule of law, the sort of thing that says 'you've been warned constantly and restrictions have been put in place, yet you still knowingly did something that could cause you harm. Don't come crying.'

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by Stephen

That doesn't need a special app or device.


Don't go looking for it and you won't be exposed to it

That's the whole point, some will go looking for it and this is to prevent them from gaining access.

[Stephen]

Well if they were warned and told not to, then still go looking for it, that personally is a them issue. We shouldn't all have to be monitored and told what we can look at because some are not smart enough to take notice of the advice and seek it out anyway.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by RichardCoulter

That's the whole point, some will go looking for it and this is to prevent them from gaining access.

Those that go looking will usually find, by one means or another, no matter how many preventative checks are in place . . . or how many times they've been warned (from an early age).

[jem]

Originally Posted by Carth

Those that go looking will usually find, by one means or another, no matter how many preventative checks are in place . . . or how many times they've been warned (from an early age).

Exactly, nail meet head!

Also if this is baked into the OS, then it has to be adopted and incorporated as part of the OS by the manufacturers - can you imagine Apple and Google doing this? For iOS and pure Android, it’ll be a flat no! Some forks of Android may incorporate it but it be very niche and have a tiny market share.

[RichardCoulter]

Originally Posted by jem

Exactly, nail meet head!

Also if this is baked into the OS, then it has to be adopted and incorporated as part of the OS by the manufacturers - can you imagine Apple and Google doing this? For iOS and pure Android, it’ll be a flat no! Some forks of Android may incorporate it but it be very niche and have a tiny market share.

You may well be right, but it will be useful for work phones and extremely useful for parents who wish to prevent their children from accessing inappropriate content or stop predators sending sexual predatory messages (and stop them from sending naked pictures of themselves as predators so often like to try and persuade them to do.) These are then posted to paedophile websites or used to blackmail them for money or to force them to send even more explicit content.

[Carth]

I'm a pensioner, I often get emails and unsolicited phone calls that urge me to click a strange link, or 'speak to an advisor', or try to con me into thinking my Amazon account has been compromised.

Where's my protection? I'm at an age where senility is allegedly as bad as being a 7 yr old again and I demand protection from the nasty people trying to take advantage of my vulnerability.

Originally Posted by Carth

I'm a pensioner, I often get emails and unsolicited phone calls that urge me to click a strange link, or 'speak to an advisor', or try to con me into thinking my Amazon account has been compromised.

Where's my protection? I'm at an age where senility is allegedly as bad as being a 7 yr old again and I demand protection from the nasty people trying to take advantage of my vulnerability.

There now gramps, nurse will be along with your ovaltine and sleeping pills in a moment. Take a seat.