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Old Yesterday, 12:31   #2131
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Bit late for that, mate. The enemy is already here.
oh I agree, which is why we should have our eyes open at home, not away
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Dont care for Starmer as a rule, but agree with him here, we should not be getting involved in this conflict other than whats needed to defend ourselves from any retalitory attacks. This war is the USA & Israels, not ours.
The war is with Arabs. But other than a pound note in their pocket they have just created a monster by keeping the peace. Iran wants Mecca. The region is doomed.

Trumps a curious one. He tells countries to pay up on defence then takes over from the rich Arabs. Huh are they paying up in other ways
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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The war is with Arabs. But other than a pound note in their pocket they have just created a monster by keeping the peace. Iran wants Mecca. The region is doomed.

Trumps a curious one. He tells countries to pay up on defence then takes over from the rich Arabs. Huh are they paying up in other ways
The UAE bought billions of his crypto, his profiteering and corruption are off the scale and barely a word is uttered, hunters laptop and Hillarys emails still get more press than world liberty financial
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Quite amusing to see Trump perplexed when other countries don't follow his America First line but put their own countries first.
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

It's all about the exchange rate, which currently stands at around 17 drones for 2 Patriot missiles . .
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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It's all about the exchange rate, which currently stands at around 17 drones for 2 Patriot missiles . .
Trump should ask Zelenskyy for help - Ukraine has lots of experience downing Shahed drones…
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Well he has offered help

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“I would suggest the following: leaders of the Middle East have great relations with Russians. They can ask Russians to implement a month-long ceasefire,” Mr Zelensky told Bloomberg. “In exchange, we will send our best operators of drone interceptors to the Middle East countries.”

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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Trump should ask Zelenskyy for help - Ukraine has lots of experience downing Shahed drones…
.... and, with a bit of luck, may not see too many more.
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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It's all about the exchange rate, which currently stands at around 17 drones for 2 Patriot missiles . .
It's 20k for a drone and 4 million for a patriot missile, so I make that 200 drones per patriot missile, hell of an exchange rate that...
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

from what i've seen on TV the easiest way to stop a shahed drone is to put a block of flats in front of it
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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It's 20k for a drone and 4 million for a patriot missile, so I make that 200 drones per patriot missile, hell of an exchange rate that...
I wasn't talking of the finances involved, more of what's being thrown about from one side to another
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Pete Hegseth (US Secretary of Fox News) has stood up and claimed an American submarine just became the first since world war 2 to torpedo a warship. I can’t help wondering how ‘facts’ like this get circulated - surely if someone imagined it might be true, they would have to go and check to make sure first? Otherwise by what basis would you imagine it was true? Annoyingly, this little candidate for Most Stupid Thing the Trump Admin Has Said Today (and let’s face it, it’s a crowded field) just gave handwringing Bowen the chance to remind everyone watching the 10 o’clock news how ‘controversial’ the BBC has always thought the sinking of the Belgrano was.

Mr Hegseth, the crew of HMS Conqueror would like a word.
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

Perhaps its the first American submarine to torpedo a warship since WW2 ?
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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Perhaps its the first American submarine to torpedo a warship since WW2 ?
It is, though he failed to make that distinction in his press conference.
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