Russia has invaded Ukraine

Originally Posted by thenry

Isn't it funny how the country USA is the reason this war is prolonged. I mean USA want it ended by force or being occupied. Thousands are dying due to this confusion.

I think it's safe to say Putin ain't listening now. Trump should focus merging Canada, Greenland and south America to the United States of whole America

What about Central America (Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama)?

[thenry]

I considered them and Mexico part of south America

Originally Posted by thenry

I considered them and Mexico part of south America

You would be incorrect in that consideration…

https://www.britannica.com/place/South-America

[thenry]

declaration sets out the "components of the security guarantees". This includes:

• Setting up a ceasefire monitoring mechanism placed under US leadership with contributions from several nations;
• A Ukrainian force of 800,000 men with the "training, capabilities, and all the necessary resources to ensure that this army can deter any new aggression";
• Continuing to work to create a "multinational force in the air, on the seas and on land to provide reassurance after the ceasefire";
• And Ukraine's allies legally committing to supporting Ukraine "in the event of a new attack by Russia".

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-w...#liveblog-body

Von der Leyen said: "Ukraine's accession to the EU will be both a key security guarantee in its own right and a central pillar of our transformative prosperity offer."

For context: Ukraine's bid for EU membership has long been on the bloc's agenda, with several rounds of talks held on the matter last year.

But the move has faced repeated resistance from Hungary, whose prime minister, Viktor Orban, and government are widely seen as the most Kremlin-friendly of its members.

Formal EU accession negotiations can only begin with the unanimous consent of all 27 member states.

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-w...#liveblog-body

So the EU and it's bumchums will war with Russia what a bullshit life to live. I mean do they honestly believe this will pass. This and Ukraines NATO membership.

Ukraine are soo lucky they have US assistance, stick that in your declaration of the willing.

NATO membership is not on the cards.
I dont believe it ever was, even before the war, not for a long time anyway.

I dont see why we should legally commit to supporting them, it should be voluntary.

Can you really see Russia agreeing to Ukraine having an 800,000 "force".

In fact, can you really see them (Putin) agreeing to any of this.

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Originally Posted by thenry

Trump should focus merging Canada, Greenland and south America to the United States of whole America

Maybe we'll be the next US state, well positioned after all.

[1andrew1]

Interesting u-turn from Zelensky

Zelenskyy planning elections in Ukraine and vote on peace deal

Trump administration has pressured Ukrainian leader to hold both votes by May 15 or risk losing security guarantees

Ukraine has begun planning presidential elections alongside a referendum on any peace deal with Russia, after the Trump administration pressed Kyiv to hold both votes by May 15 or risk losing proposed US security guarantees.

The move, according to Ukrainian and western officials and others familiar with the matter, comes amid intense pressure on Kyiv by the White House to wrap up peace negotiations between Ukraine and Russia in the spring.

The plan aligns with a US push, outlined by Volodymyr Zelenskyy to reporters last Friday, to have all documents signed to bring Europe’s largest conflict since the second world war to an end by June.

“They say that they want to do everything by June . . . so that the war ends,” Ukraine’s president told reporters, citing the White House’s desire to shift its focus to the US midterm elections in November. “And they want a clear schedule.”

https://archive.ph/rRH9D

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Interesting u-turn from Zelensky

https://archive.ph/rRH9D

Not really.

Ukrainian and western officials stressed that both the timetable and the US ultimatum were unlikely to hold, as they hinged on several factors, including that progress could be made towards a peace deal with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

Agreeing to plan for something you know won’t happen is just good politics, if being seen doing the planning is necessary in order to secure continued support.

The Western news media still doesn’t really understand Ukraine, or this conflict, and is largely still stuck in a cold-war mindset in which Ukraine must inevitably, eventually, take whatever terms are on offer because Russia is the unbeatable second army of the world. It consequently falls victim to its own confirmation bias whenever it gets hold of stories like this.

You see the same phenomenon on the BBC whenever they send a reporter to spend a week on one section of the vast front in this conflict. Inevitably they start filing copy about depressed, demoralised soldiers and ZOMG! RuSSiaNs aRe AdVaNcInG!!11!! pieces-to-camera delivered with that sad head tilt and sympathetic frown I’m sure they all learn how to do before being handed their flak jacket.