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Still only 2 agents in your picture restraining him. The legs on the middle, belong to Pretti himself.
As the annotation in your 2nd picture says,, "appears to". When he does finally remove Pretti's gun, he quickly moves away with it. The fact that he's still there, means he hasn't yet got hold of it. So in my picture, Pretti still has the gun on him, because the agent is still there.
Even your pictures show that Pretti was resisting and wasn't fully restrained and wasn't lying down on the ground.
So what of the 5 things I said about my picture aren't true?
The first shot occurs as the other agent runs away with Pretti's gun. Because of reaction times, and the time it takes to physically move, the trained autonomous actions were a result of the situation a fraction of a second before.
None of the agents were wildly brandishing their guns around looking for somebody to shoot, as so many seem to be implying.
It was only in that specific situation that a gun was drawn and fired. Whether an over-reaction or not, it was the situation Pretti created, that led to the result.
Here's a picture of Pretti being pepper sprayed. He's NOT helping the other protestor at the time, as is claimed. Snapshot_20260207_063711.jpg
Comedian Chris Rock made a video 20 years ago about how best to behave in a law enforcement encounter. Pretti broke just about every applicable rule in that video, and not for the first time.
Still only 2 agents in your picture restraining him. The legs on the middle, belong to Pretti himself.
As the annotation in your 2nd picture says,, "appears to". When he does finally remove Pretti's gun, he quickly moves away with it. The fact that he's still there, means he hasn't yet got hold of it. So in my picture, Pretti still has the gun on him, because the agent is still there.
Even your pictures show that Pretti was resisting and wasn't fully restrained and wasn't lying down on the ground.
So what of the 5 things I said about my picture aren't true?
The first shot occurs as the other agent runs away with Pretti's gun. Because of reaction times, and the time it takes to physically move, the trained autonomous actions were a result of the situation a fraction of a second before.
None of the agents were wildly brandishing their guns around looking for somebody to shoot, as so many seem to be implying.
It was only in that specific situation that a gun was drawn and fired. Whether an over-reaction or not, it was the situation Pretti created, that led to the result.
Here's a picture of Pretti being pepper sprayed. He's NOT helping the other protestor at the time, as is claimed. Attachment 31726
Comedian Chris Rock made a video 20 years ago about how best to behave in a law enforcement encounter. Pretti broke just about every applicable rule in that video, and not for the first time.
I make that at least four agents around him, not two.
Was it an over-reaction to kill someone who was clearly no threat and then continue to fire shots into their prone body to ensure they couldn't live to tell the tale. Yes.
By being there, Pretti was helping the other protestor.
I'm not sure a 20-year-old video from a comedian in another country on the best way to deal with law enforcement encounters would have much credibility in dealing with such maverick ICE officers in 2026. This just sucks of victim blaming.
But I accept you've adopted a pro-ICE stance which won't be altered by posters providing information that runs contrary to your position.
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