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Re: President Trump 2.0

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If in both cases they had simply "surrendered" and complied and not tried to resist, nothing would've happened. THEIR CHOICE. It was the result of THEIR actions.
The ICE people were too trigger-happy. Simples. The victims were not there to kill agents. Your support for those brutes (the agents) is astonishing.
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Only only agent was near at the time, faced with 3 aggressive protestors. Other agents arrived later, especially the shooter. The shooter didn't take part in any pepper spraying, restraining or anything. He was just moving around, until the gun was discovered. His actions were completely non-aggressive before that point.
Hitting with can might have been a distraction technique,designed to distract someone from possibly going for a weapon. Same thing with breaking a car window from outside, when a person is inside. Standard procedure, even in the UK.
The agent was being confronted in the middle of the road. If somebody did that to you, wouldn't you consider that aggressive?
A proper response to being attempting to be restrained by law enforcement, is to stay still and be restrained and lie on the ground. NOT try to get up. In so, so many cases, it is the resisting that causes deaths.
The CBP internal assessment disagrees with your statement…

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/0...ew-immigration

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But the assessment makes no mention of Pretti attacking officers or threatening them with a weapon — as the administration first described the incident. It also appears to more closely match multiple bystander video and witness testimony of the incident.

The preliminary assessment of Pretti’s shooting, known as a death notification, was shared by congressional sources not authorized to speak publicly, and reviewed by NPR. It was based on body-worn camera footage and documentation from the agency, it said.

The CBP assessment describes how officers were initially confronted by two women who were blowing whistles while they conducted an immigration enforcement operation.

“The [officer] pushed them both away and one of the females ran to a male, later identified as 37-year-old Alex Jeffrey Pretti, a U.S. citizen. The [officer] attempted to move the woman and Pretti out of the roadway. The woman and Pretti did not move,” the review states, adding that the officer then sprayed both with oleoresin capsicum spray, commonly known as pepper spray.

CBP officers attempted to take Pretti into custody. Pretti resisted their efforts and a struggle ensued, according to the report.

During the struggle, an agent yelled, “He’s got a gun!” multiple times, the review states.

Approximately five seconds later, one agent discharged his CBP-issued Glock 19 and an officer also discharged his CBP-issued Glock 47 at Pretti.
After the shooting, an agent advised that he had Pretti’s firearm in his possession, the review states.
Unless you think not moving is confronting someone…

And he was shot 5 seconds after someone called out "he’s got a gun!", and after the CBP agent took Pretti’s gun, so it wasn’t a split-second reaction…
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