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Old 09-01-2026, 22:29   #2071
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Re: Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah, Iran … War

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It's in the world's interest that Iran's regime is taken down. Will Trump be as good as his word?
Yes, OK, arguably right. But then what?

Suppose the US carry out a decapitation strike, kill the ‘Supreme Leader’, many if not all of the government - what do you think will happen? There is no opposition party (presumably pro-western) ready and organised to take over. Most likely the entire country will collapse into anarchy, unless the US is prepared to ‘put boots on the ground’ in large numbers and, basically take the country over and run it.

And that is easier said than done, although people may have no real love for the existing regime, they tend to resent a regime forced on them from outside. I do fear that this will make Vietnam and Iraq and Afghanistan look like a bad cold in terms of US and Iranian casualties.

Always, always have a clearly defined exit strategy, not just ‘oh this isn’t working and the polls are against us, so we are basically going to just pull out and leave chaos behind us, and naturally this wont foster a load of terrorist groups, all of which now have a hatred on the US - well it’ll be something for a future administration to deal with’.

For the US, removing the current regime in Iran is fairly easy, dealing with the consequences, isn’t. Unfortunately, I'm not convinced that the current US administration has the foresight to understand this.
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Old 09-01-2026, 22:39   #2072
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Can the Arab nations step up, middle easterns ? Or will they battle in Mecca
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Old 09-01-2026, 22:53   #2073
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Main clause = good question
Subordinate clause = wibble!
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Old 14-01-2026, 17:29   #2074
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modern society!

Football without fans is nothing. Unless it's COVID. And government action. Yet this goes amiss.
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Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans will not be able to buy tickets to Aston Villa match in Birmingham
The Tel Aviv side won't sell their supporters any tickets
- irrespective of whether the current ban on attendance is overturned or not.Maccabi Tel Aviv FC fans will not be able to buy tickets to Aston Villa match in Birmingham

https://news.sky.com/story/maccabi-t...match-13454141


looks like their thugs won't be meeting our thugs after all
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Home Secretary, Shabana Mahmood, has said she no longer has confidence in the chief of West Midlands Police, following the force's decision to ban Israeli football fans from attending a game in the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...#liveblog-body

https://news.sky.com/story/home-secr...n-ban-13493637
terrorise society

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They used a fictional match generated by an AI bot in their evidence. Little doubt he needs to go, given the other issues they had around the evidence provided to ban Maccabi fans.
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Old 16-01-2026, 17:41   #2076
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The chief constable of West Midlands Police is retiring with immediate effect, the region's crime commissioner, Simon Foster, has confirmed.

It comes amid criticism of the force's decision to ban fans of Israeli team Maccabi Tel Aviv from a game against Aston Villa last year.

https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...#liveblog-body
Good I guess. There were all sorts of accusations thrown around, Birmingham being of divisive social behaviours one of them.

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Exiled crown prince Reza Pahlavi is now speaking at a news conference in Washington.

He started out with a minute of silence "for the courageous Iranian people".

The message he conveys is that "the so-called Islamic Republic is not the government of Iran".

"This is no longer mere repression, this is foreign occupation wearing clerical robes."

He adds: "The Islamic Republic will fall - not if but when."

https://news.sky.com/story/iran-late...#liveblog-body
Horrible to see lives lost for this cause. It doesn't make it right.
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Trumps master plan...

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Who's said no?

A number of European countries have declined their invitations.

Norway, Sweden and France have all declined their invitations, while Italy's economy minister Giancarlo Giorgetti said joining a group led by one country's leader would violate Italy's constitution.

In the UK Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper has said the government has concerns that Russia's Putin has been invited to join and the UK will not take part in the signing ceremony.

Neither Russia nor China have said if they will accept their invitations.

https://news.sky.com/story/what-is-t...he-un-13497460
Aww gangbang in Ukraine instead

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Who is going to be on the Board of Peace?

Around 60 nations have been invited to join the Board of Peace, with some 35 agreeing to join so far, a senior Trump administration official said.

"We have a lot of great people that want to join," Mr Trump on Wednesday as he stood next to Egyptian President Abdel-Fattah el Sissi.

"It's going to be the most prestigious board ever formed."

Those signed up include Middle East allies such as Israel, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Jordan, Qatar and Egypt.

Others include NATO members Turkey and Hungary, whose leaders have good ties with Mr Trump; as well as Armenia and Azerbaijan, which reached a US-brokered peace agreement last year.

Morocco, Pakistan, Indonesia, Kosovo, Uzbekistan, Kazakhstan, Paraguay, and Vietnam have also agreed to take part.

More controversially, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko has accepted an invitation.

https://news.sky.com/story/what-is-t...he-un-13497460
Isn't it funny how the poorest of places are the richest. There's no excuses not to build a better future.

What are the unanswered invites waiting for?

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Would you sign any document Trump had his hand in before thoroughly dissecting it looking for the well hidden 'gotcha'
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