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Old Yesterday, 22:55   #2341
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Re: President Trump 2.0

Labour, Lib Dems and Reform all have spoken out against Trump now on this. There is cross-party unity in the UK - and across Europe - against American on this.
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Old Yesterday, 23:22   #2342
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Re: President Trump 2.0

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What did Starmer say against Ukraine that you paraphrased "screwed Ukraine"?

Was it this from August 2022?

https://labourlist.org/2022/08/starm...n-sovereignty/

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Keir Starmer has declared the Labour Party’s “unrelenting” support for Ukrainian sovereignty following a meeting with Ukrainian soldiers on the 31st anniversary of the country’s independence from the Soviet Union.

The Labour leader met with Ukrainian soldiers being trained by British Army officials today on a visit to Salisbury Plain. Speaking with Ukrainian and British personnel, Starmer reiterated the opposition party’s commitment to NATO and praised the work the organisation has done providing assistance to Ukraine.
Or perhaps in August 2024?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ar...f-independence

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Keir Starmer has told Ukrainians that the UK will back them “today and always” as Kyiv marks 33 years since it declared independence from the Soviet Union.

The prime minister described his message to frontline fighters and people who have sought refuge in Britain as “crystal clear” as community groups, councils and parishes around the UK plan to mark the anniversary on Saturday.

Ukraine’s supreme soviet agreed the state should leave the Moscow-based Soviet Union on 24 August 1991, a decision which Ukrainian voters backed at a referendum in December the same year.

Starmer said: “My message to all Ukrainians, whether on the frontline or here in your second home in the UK, is crystal clear: we are with you today and always.
Or was it in March 2025?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...-save-ukraine/

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Britain and France will lead a European “coalition of the willing” to provide security guarantees to Ukraine and enable peace negotiations with Russia, Sir Keir Starmer said.

The Prime Minister said he and Emmanuel Macron, the president of France, were working together on a security plan which is believed to include peacekeeping troops on the ground.

This European security guarantee would then be put to the US for approval, Sir Keir added.
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Re: President Trump 2.0

There's a lot of communication between our PM and the media I can't find the exact pieces. He has clearly spoken of his support for Ukraine which would be the opposite of screwed. It was just a clearer way of saying he wouldn't ignore what's happening to Ukraine.

There's some stuff in this lengthy piece but no, no mention of the actual word screwed

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2577476.html
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Re: President Trump 2.0

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There's a lot of communication between our PM and the media I can't find the exact pieces. He has clearly spoken of his support for Ukraine which would be the opposite of screwed. It was just a clearer way of saying he wouldn't ignore what's happening to Ukraine.

There's some stuff in this lengthy piece but no, no mention of the actual word screwed

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-b2577476.html
So to be clear he never said screwed
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What would you have him say?
Um, he's lost all ability to talk sense, it's more about what we say, viz. "Don't dismantle NATO and start a nuclear war".
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No need to do anything, I'd guess there are a few people already scratching his name on a bullet or two . . and some may be close to him
We can but hope. In a UFO reboot fanfic I'm trying to write, a member of the Secret Service does just that...despite being Republican, and despite knowing he won't (and doesn't) leave the room alive. Some of them are sensible, i.e. they don't agree with him. Right now they're our best bet.

Terrible, isn't it, when we're hoping an ostensible ally will be assassinated...?

(Wonder what Echelon will make of this, Carth? )

Mind you, has America ever had a forceful but successful Democratic president?
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Re: President Trump 2.0

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Mind you, has America ever had a forceful but successful Democratic president?[/FONT]
They had the most forceful and successful imho in FDR
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