Windows 11 25H2 officially released

[Sirius]

Thankfully as a Nobara 42 user with the KDE desktop i dont have to worry about copilot, recall or any of the other bull excreta that microsoft is trying to force on users.

Originally Posted by Hugh

If there is AI in Windows, I want it to be my choice to use it, rather than it being on by default.

But ... but ... but its AI, why wouldn't you want it.
AI is the best thing ever, or so they would have you believe ...

[Carth]

Originally Posted by Paul

But ... but ... but its AI, why wouldn't you want it.
AI is the best thing ever, or so they would have you believe ...

I believe, I believe . . honestly I believe AI is brilliant

right, that's the AI search bots satisfied and reporting back that everything is going fine

[Anonymouse]

I love Big Brother! Nice one!

[Anonymouse]

ATM I'm running 23H2 (yes, that's a 3, which is not a typo!) with a Registry hack to defer updates till next year. This is why.

If they can't even do updates properly, how do they expect people to accept the AI agents? It's no wonder folk are defecting to Linux - I'm on the verge myself.

[Anonymouse]

Apparently support is ending this year for 23H2.

<sarcasm> (we need that emoji!) Oh, I'm so sad. And so surprised.</sarcasm>

I lived without updates on my 8 laptop for NINE YEARS. I won't miss them on 11, and thus far I've seen no detrimental effects from my Registry hack. If Windows stops working I'll just nuke it and give my 4TB to Linux Mint.

In fact I may do that anyway.

[Jaymoss]

Sometimes I feel like I am the only tech expert that likes Windows in nearly all its variations. I Liked Vista because I invested in plenty of Ram and it run awesome I liked 8 once Start8 was installed and I like Windows 11 too

I liked Windows 2000, and I dont mind Windows 7.

Never used Windows 8, but I gather its similar to Windows 7.

Dont care for Windows 10, and certainly dont like Windows 11, they messed up all the context menus.

(Just part of a bigger issue with W10/11, they made loads of unnecessary changes, and added tons of bloat).

[Sirius]

The only time i use windows now is at work. I am not into AI or having all my usage monitored and analysed. My home Pc's are all linux based and i will not be changing back to the latest AI slop from Microsoft.

[Jaymoss]

Originally Posted by Paul

I liked Windows 2000, and I dont mind Windows 7.

Never used Windows 8, but I gather its similar to Windows 7.

Dont care for Windows 10, and certainly dont like Windows 11, they messed up all the context menus.

(Just part of a bigger issue with W10/11, they made loads of unnecessary changes, and added tons of bloat).

Can not argue with that but if you install English international instead of UK or US you get a lot less bloat

[damien c]

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Sometimes I feel like I am the only tech expert that likes Windows in nearly all its variations. I Liked Vista because I invested in plenty of Ram and it run awesome I liked 8 once Start8 was installed and I like Windows 11 too

Vista was great when you ran it how it should and had a system powerful enough for it.

My issues with Vista started after a GPU Waterblock cracked, after that it never ran fine for me, and I ended up back on XP till about 12 months after Windows 7 released.

I have still not done a fresh install using my Enterprise ISO's yet, but I have a lot going on at the moment but once I am able to relax etc I will be doing that, will get rid of a lot of crap that is not needed.

Did a fresh install though the other night using a normal Win 11 Pro iso, the International one not using the media creation tool, my god they have filled that with so much bloat and you cannot uninstall a lot of it without using something like the Chris Titus tool.

For those interested though the "Shift + F10" then "oobe\bypassnro" then unplug your ethernet or do the "Ipconfig/release", bunch of commands still works on Win 11 Pro to create a local account.

Microsoft may learn one day but sadly I don't think I will be alive when that day comes unless a miracle happens.

Originally Posted by Jaymoss

Can not argue with that but if you install English international instead of UK or US you get a lot less bloat

Its my Work Laptop, so I dont really have a choice on that.

[djmagnifique]

I really liked Windows ME. So much more stable than Win 98.

[Anonymouse]

I've used DOS 6.22 and 3.1 - did the job, slowly.
95 - ditto, quicker.
98 - slightly better.
2000 - I liked it.
XP - a bit flashy, but OK.
Vista - mmm. Brief acquaintance (long story I'm not going to tell). I admit to liking the Aero interface - my laptop never had speed issues.
8.1 - loved it.
10 - don't like it at all.
11 - like it about the same, i.e. not at all.
I've also used a BBC Micro, a TeleType (stop laughing, this was 1982!), plus SUN Workstation, UNIX and VAX/VMS terminals, programming in UNIX, various BASIC dialects, C (a joy - using Jackson Structured Programming tends to reduce a program design to the ideal of all being functions), COBOL (a pain), PASCAL (ditto but worse, pointers are so confusing), Modula-2 (the bas...illegitimate child of PASCAL - avoid like the plague!), C++ (2 weeks is not long enough to learn it - hell, two years wouldn't be enough!), PROLOG (5, I think - hated it), Visual BASIC 5 (I quite liked it, inventing a technique - or so I thought - that turned out to be SOP), VB.NET and DCL (v. powerful if you know what you're doing). Also 6502, 80386 (not bad, actually - HiSoft Assembler was very capable), Z80 and 68000 Assembler (loved the last two).
Cautionary note: on my HND/degree course I used the VT220 and VT320 keyboards. The < and > symbols were on the same key, needing SHIFT for the latter. I missed this once. One typo, just ONE, i.e. a misplaced < that should've been >, and it cost me EIGHT BLOODY HOURS of debugging a COBOL program! Just to make it even more baffling, a fellow student had virtually the same program, with the same design (JSP tends to force this, especially in COBOL - one advantage of COBOL with JSP is that it's difficult to misinterpret) - but his program worked perfectly with his and my data file!
I swear, I was just about to lose the will to live when, after EIGHT BLOODY HOURS, I finally spotted it. An excellent example (so my lecturer teased me later) of a logical error as opposed to a compiler error - the compiler, of course, never caught it as it was a perfectly legitimate program statement; it only counted as a typo because it was the wrong symbol, not an illegitimate one. Never was GIGO so true!

Oh, I miss the VIC-20/SHARP MZ700/ATARI ST, 6502/Z80/68000 days. Back then IT made sense.