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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by nomadking
Why should this have been any different to everything else they do?
Too many knee-jerk quick fixes without thinking them through. They had years to prepare before being elected, so why didn't they?
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Dunno, what do you think?
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This clown-fest of a Government has no idea how to run the country, now they will need to find a way of replacing that money from there latest u turn and guess who they will crap on to get it.
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I think the government were accused of raising too much money in the Budget to give themselves a bit of leeway so this should be ok. Mortgage rates are down as is inflation so two positives there to balance the negatives of growth (lack of) and the unemployment rate.
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23-12-2025, 18:00
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
I think the government were accused of raising too much money in the Budget to give themselves a bit of leeway so this should be ok. Mortgage rates are down as is inflation so two positives there to balance the negatives of growth (lack of) and the unemployment rate.
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Until they pay the Junior Doctors ransom
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23-12-2025, 18:34
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Until they pay the Junior Doctors ransom
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I'm glad you said ransom cos blackmail is such an ugly word
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23-12-2025, 19:05
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Ah yes, so poorly paid they can afford to keep going on strike 
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Yesterday, 14:38
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
U-turn alert!
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U-turn over business rates hike for pubs expected in coming days, Sky News understands
Sky News deputy political editor Sam Coates has been looking into the potential risk to the hospitality sector with upcoming business rate hikes.
A variety of factors, including revaluations and the ending of COVID-era support, means hospitality venues are seeing their bills potentially set to rise by more than a 100% in the coming years.
Sam has now heard that a rescue package that could help with this is coming in the next few days - but only for pubs.
This leaves others, like hotels, potentially exposed to the uplifts.
As Sam mentioned on this morning's Politics at Sam and Anne's, it poses a big political headache for the prime minister and the chancellor.
It comes as Sam revealed earlier this week that there was "ongoing cabinet-level opposition" to the hike.
"Rachel Reeves' colleagues are not happy about it," he said.
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https://news.sky.com/story/politics-...-nato-12593360
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Yesterday, 19:00
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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So yet another u turn from Labour 
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Yesterday, 19:12
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
U Turn on Pub rates
U Turn on winter fuel allowance
U Turn on Waspi Women
U Turn on Farm inheritance tax
U Turn on Welfare Reform
U Turn on Grooming Gang enquiry (though I still doubt it will actually happen)
No conviction.
Did I miss any others?
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Yesterday, 20:19
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Pierre
U Turn on Pub rates
U Turn on winter fuel allowance
U Turn on Waspi Women
U Turn on Farm inheritance tax
U Turn on Welfare Reform
U Turn on Grooming Gang enquiry (though I still doubt it will actually happen)
No conviction.
Did I miss any others?
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Expect the big one, U turn on brexit 
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Sirius
Expect the big one, U turn on brexit |
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Oh dear.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Its the public that have u turned on Brexit, now they've seen the result.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/...26Sv94TzM1SmNH
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Yesterday, 21:25
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
I'm not sure a change of 10% actually counts as a U turn.
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
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Originally Posted by Paul
I'm not sure a change of 10% actually counts as a U turn.
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Love all this statistical crap - taken from that linked survey page:
Survey time period
January 2020 to June 2025
Number of respondents
2,239
. . and there you have it . . 2,239 people . . statistics are brill aren't they
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
If you understand how they work* - yes...
https://publications.parliament.uk/p.../106/10616.htm
* their methodology and limitations
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Today, 09:44
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Re: Starmer’s chronicles
Brexit opinion is changing in part because, being morbid, people are dying, and few Remain voters are changing their mind.
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Originally Posted by Pierre
U Turn on Pub rates
U Turn on winter fuel allowance
U Turn on Waspi Women
U Turn on Farm inheritance tax
U Turn on Welfare Reform
U Turn on Grooming Gang enquiry (though I still doubt it will actually happen)
No conviction.
Did I miss any others?
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Farm inheritance tax U-turn hasn't done them any good either because it didn't exempt the richest ones who've been leading the charge.
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