Smart meters

[SnoopZ]

Bulb have just started sending me emails saying, we are installing in your area book now. Etc

[nashville]

I never took one when I was offered, I just do not trust them, a few people I know have just not plugged them in ,so what is the point, I read my own meter every month,

Originally Posted by nashville

I never took one when I was offered, I just do not trust them, a few people I know have just not plugged them in ,so what is the point, I read my own meter every month,

They can't just be plugged in, they have to be fitted by your energy supplier.

[heero_yuy]

My electricity one has never worked properly and I still get estimated bills. The gas people want me to have one. No way Jose.

I’ve been lucky - both mine work fine, and send twice daily readings to the supplier.

[Taf]

The present non-smart meters read kilowatt hours (kWh).

Due to some complicated effects by how you use the electricity in your home, this means power companies lose power, and therefore money.

They would much rather we all change to kilovolt amperes (kVa) and put that extra cost onto consumers.

https://scottiestech.info/2018/02/27...tor%20of%201.0.

[heero_yuy]

Commercial users have to pay an extra charge if their PF* (Power Factor) is less than 1. Before smart meters the installation included a non-user resettable PF meter that recorded the lowest value.

Partly because the losses in the electricity transmission system depend on KVA not KWatts

Smart meters show this KVA total value as "Imported reactive power" if you can work out which buttons to press on the main meter to get this display. Domestic users are currently billed for "Imported active power"

On the domestic front the low PF items are fridges and freezers due to the induction motor that runs the compressor. According to my own energy monitor they can be as low as 0.6

If you have solar cells then the power you send to the grid is shown as "Exported active power"

* PF = Real power (KWatts) / Apparent power (KVA)

[Taf]

PF of some LED lighting has been measured low as 0.35.

Not so attractive if they started charging for kVa.

A very techie read if you can't sleep. http://wiki.diyfaq.org.uk/index.php/Power_factor

[Dude111]

Originally Posted by Taf

The present non-smart meters read kilowatt hours (kWh).

Yes and are MUCH BETTER.. The power companies have just gotton greedy and want every penny!! (They dont care if its not the best for us)

[Taf]

The phone calls asking me to book a smart meter instal have resumed.

And today an email:

"From 1st January, Ofgem is making a small change to the energy price cap. While a typical household will pay about £3* more a year, the actual change to what you pay will depend on how much energy you use and how you pay - this could go up or down.

Please book a smart meter instal".

No thankyou.

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Taf

The phone calls asking me to book a smart meter instal have resumed.

And today an email:

"From 1st January, Ofgem is making a small change to the energy price cap. While a typical household will pay about £3* more a year, the actual change to what you pay will depend on how much energy you use and how you pay - this could go up or down.

Please book a smart meter instal".

No thankyou.

But you must enjoy the calls. You've already beem advised how to avoid them , opt out and/or give them a duff phone no.

[Sirius]

Originally Posted by Mr K

But you must enjoy the calls. You've already been advised how to avoid them , opt out and/or give them a duff phone no.

It's like banging your head against a wall and complaining it hurts, you are then advised to stop banging your head against the wall and it will not hurt anymore. however you carry on doing it and complain all the time it hurts when you bang your head against the wall.